not much help i know but there is supposed to be a gap b/w your tank and crown jewels..........you should be able to fit your fits in that gap........maybe in your case it's just a matter of getting used to :dunno
on long trips i do move up close to the tank just to straighten my back though.
not quite sure what you meant by not having the same kind of lock to the bike?

 

You should get comfortable sliding back a bit. You want to be able to transition from side to side in a straight line. If you are too close to the tank, you have to rotate your hips around it- bad body position. Probably not a huge issue on the street, but very important on the track.

 

I'll try shifting back a bit when I'm riding, I've never been to the track yet, but plan to this year. So far I haven't had an issue with getting off the bike for corners, but on the street and riding within reason I have plenty of time to shift to the side and set up for harder turns.

By lock to the bike, I meant the way my lower body pinches the bike. Something I learned from my riding course. It might be mostly for low speeds though. I can move myself, or the bike and have a good feel for angles because your lower body moves with the bike and pivot at the waist. I don't do this for hard turns, cause I get my ass mostly off the seat, but general street riding I will.

 

I've never been to the track yet, but plan to this year..

Hopefully see you at Mission this year................they cut back the trackdays from 8 to 5 this year so sign up early.:cheers

WestcoastSuperbikeSchool

 

im 6'2",and i didnt have to lower the peg itself,but i did find a benefit from moving the shifter itself forward,and rotating it down. on your k9,there are 3 diffrent places you can move the shifter alone,and you can adjust the shifter rod to fine tune it.

 

what type of riding you are doing?

 

As far as performance riding, you always hear people say "scoot back in the seat" or "you need to be as far back in the seat as possible". People always say that, but they don't know why you should scoot back and scooting back "as far as possible" isn't correct.

You need to scoot back in the seat far enough to allow your inner thighs/knees to fit into the curvature of the gas tank for maximum stability.

How far you scoot back will depend on your height, build, seat shape, tank shape etc. A 6'2", i will sit in a different place than my girlfriend at 5'2".

 

why not just get stomp grip then? that way you can sit anywhere you wantunk

 

Stomp grip helps, no doubt. But you would be amazed at the people who sit so far back in the seat that they can only grab the tank with their knees. :lol

...all because somebody said "you need to scoot back as far as possible". :monkeyface

 

:cheers

 

For regular street riding I sit naturally against the tank because I am so short I need to sit all the way forward for my feet to touch the ground. My belly pushes me far enough away to keep my jewels safe.

I do notice that I push back far enough that my jacket doesn't rub the tank when I pick up the pace, to make getting off the seat easier. I don't really think about it, though, it just kinda happens.

 

yeah for shifter issues I would play around more with the shifter to footpeg positioning. I have vortex rearsets and they help a lot for this. I am shorter but like my shifter low....getting the ergonomics right on the bike can make a huge difference and thus the need for those aftermarket rearsets.

If this is a trackbike you should also look into getting a superbike seat as this can raise the seating position as well and help with taller riders....get that butt further away from your feet so you arent so cramped.

 

on the street i sit with my testes 1 inch away from tank, this gives me space to stop myself from slamming said testes into said tank when i hit a big bump.

 

Thanks for the tips guys, I'm about to ride to work right now and play around with the settings.

What are those seats you're talking about Volcom? I've been looking at spending the dough on an extra thick Corbin seat if I cant get my legs comfortable.

PS: I just stand off my seat an inch or two when I hit a bump, I learned the nutcracker problem the hard way.

 

They are a fiberglass race tail that has a fiberglass support in lieu of your stock seat...it doesnt compress as much and is hard for track riding. I would definitely not get the corbin as I had a few on other bikes...its not conducive for track riding and not really that taller...just wider.

 

....getting the ergonomics right on the bike can make a huge difference and thus the need for those aftermarket rearsets

No doubt. I also prefer aftermarket clip-ons because I like a wider angle than what the stock clip-ons allow.

 

I'm 6'4" and I sit pretty far back. What TJ sez is right.

Once in a while, I'll have to slam on the brakes and THAT's a real nutcracker for ya!

--Wag--

 

What TJ sez is right

.

 

Notice the rather large several line space in my post? My first line is to you. The rest was answering the thread there guy :thumbup......... it is not all about you. You really are not that important :cheers.

I stand by my statement though. Stomp grips are awesome products, but if you are too far up, then you physically CANT touch it, your thigh hits, the back of the tank when you slide off........ unless you have a flexible femur :dunno. I prove it in front of a group of students every weekend.

Insight of static body position, you would be surprised at how many people think if we say "grip this way with your hands" that they cant move them any other way. Same with feet. Same with seating position or distance from tank. I am closer to the tank on a straight, Farther back on the brakes, and in the middle mid corner... but some people (like the OP maybe, since he asked) dont get that. They think if we say slide back, you always have to stay that far back etc.

 

Gotcha I thought a ex crashing slow novice Internet poster guy was trying to tell me something not pertaining to his seating position while shifting.

 

Gotcha I thought a ex crashing slow novice Internet poster guy was trying to tell me something....

:rolleyes

Joe is faster than 99.9% of this board and can easily run consistent mid-pack Expert lap times.

You can't do a lil research on the internet and ascertain somebody's riding skills.

 

There is always someone faster and in the grand scheme of things Id say we are ALL pretty fucking slow, but I have never been "slow" from my first day on track I was running top 10 novice race paces..... Id say that qualifies as relatively quick :thumbup :cheers, and I have never been a "crasher" in my book :dunno. I did have a run of 3 weekends in a row though, two of which I was taken out.

I have 8 crashes since I started on track which was 04ish I think. Me thinks you know less about me than you think you do :thumbup

 

holy shit this topic hit the nail on the head for me today bc i was theorizing why the fuck im running out of tire on the side but still not hitting a puck on the ground.

I'm 5'3 and cant for shit hit the ground with my puck. But i know im down hard as hell and at a great speed entering and exiting. I wish i had more time to fuck around with on the the track but havent got there yet this season. But PA and jersey has some nice roads as well as GA and SC in hick country.

but na im 5'3 and close to running out of tire it looks. My buddy behind me says i got about a 6"s left under my knee's but i dont really like to actually put my knee out. dont feel comfy to me. I'll take pics soon and grade my own posture on the bike. and put them up for interrogation. but for all seriousnous I'm not sure whats going on. I cant wait to get he pics.

oh yeah, my dick is smushed on the tank, is un comfy but owell.

 

So unless you can look up somebody's race results, they are slow? Fucking please :rolleyes There are tons of people who are VERY fast but simply choose not to race.

Yes - i am a "still" a Novice; but not by fault of my own. A work schedule, 2 catastrophic engine failures and being taken out by another rider...twice, resulting in 3 surgeries...has put a huge damper in my progress.

So what? What is your fucking point? Do you have any idea how ignorant you sound and how elitest you are coming across?

Get over yourself.

 

you sound like a prick and i wouldnt iss on you if you were on fire.

get over your self.

who fucking cares, i come on here every once in awhile to give shit to the holier than thou internet pos"t"ers

dont take shit so seriously its the interwebz and I have been on here longer that you two fucks

Dont give excuses about why you are a novice...its the fact that you are a NERVICE.

Joe is fast in your eyes, he is slow and unproven in mine, and so are you. Does it matter? No

And yes im not the shit, carry on about seating position.:frantic

 

TBH i used to sit as far forward as possible but got tired of crushing my balls lol.
Also read somewhere that sitting back, Does help with gripping the tank with your knees (as Joe has mentioned)COMMON SENSE should tell you that.

Only this summer have i started to sit further back in the seat and have noticed it also helps with bp on the bike...........specially in turns.

Again all road experiance but hopefully will really learn this craft when i take to the track late August or early september........:cheers

typical GDC........one member likes to think only HE can be right.
If he were to read even a few of Joe's posts, he would realise that the man has plenty of experiance on track and was just sharing this knowledge......It's what makes this site so great........I Love it here.
I guess person in question is just to ---------------- to accept that someone else could be right:dunno

 

This thread really hit the shitter.

Been working on scooting back and apart from getting used to it, its improved my overall handling. I'm going to be hitting the track on Friday to get some outside input on my positioning from an intermediate class friend at a casual pace. Doc tells me I've got scoliosis, standing as straight as I can my left hip is 2" lower than my right, and my right shoulder is about 2" lower than my left and its even worse when i'm on the bike. Gotta grab some pictures to see how bad it actually is, see if I can straighten myself out a bit to get my comfort back.

It's REALLY throwing off my left turns, my rights I'm down to the tire edge cause I naturally lean that way, hard lefts still has a 1/4" strip on my tires. Hard to focus on the road when you're focusing on twisting your BP into the right shape. Shame its not the other way around, I'd do pretty good on a nascar track unk

 

Sounds like some PIITB would straighten everything right out for you! unk

 

i like to sit close to the tank when leaning ... resing my outer forearm on the tank somewhat ..