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GP Shift for street? Pros/Cons?

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#1 ·
Hey how many people run GP Shift on the street?

Whats the pros/cons? Why do you do it?
 
#5 ·
I use it on the street, feels more comfortable.
 
#7 ·
I have been reverse shift for a long time both street and track, but I almost wish I hadn't done it. I like being able to upshift really easily off corners on the track, but some of the best riders in the world (Mladin etc) do just fine with standard shift. The real downside for me is riding dirt bikes, friends bikes, etc. I do it, but I have to think about shifting on anything other than my sportbikes.
 
#8 ·
Are you interested in doing it? I'm assuming you are not because if you didn't know what the pros/cons of it were you wouldn't even recognise the need to consider it, other than hearing about other riders doing it.

The reason I've heard (numerous times in the media) racers use it is that they are rarely if ever down changing whilst cranked right over, but the may be upshifting. Trying to get your foot under the lever when cranked over to go up a gear is much harder than just simply pushing the lever down from above.

So unless you're experiencing the above situation, there is no need to change it.
 
#10 ·
On track,
pros..... Upshifts just mash down. Upshift mid corner, less chance of hitting foot on ground. Downshifts under hard braking the momentum of your leg is going forward anyway under negative G, so downshifts are sortof easier too.
Cons... downshifts mid corner are harder on both sides left or right. (downshifts mid corner are fairly rare though).

Street.. the only real benefit is upshifts in a wheelie are easier :D.... You are rarely riding hard enough for the shift to matter on the street mid corner.


FWIW, I rode standard all the way up until late 2010. i only shifted because I was joining an endurance team and I was odd man out. I also only have issue getting on another sportbike that is not GP shift. But if I get on a dirtbike my brains switches back automatically. Odd :dunno
 
#11 ·
I've been riding dirt bikes for 24 years. I could never unlearn shifting normal pattern. All it would take is one time shifting up and going down a gear to freak me out. Like grabbing the left brake lever on a mountain bike and having it throw you over the bars.
 
#29 ·
Been riding a decade longer than you have. My latest bike came with GP shift and quickshifter and I thought it would be a confusing,frustrating ordeal, filled with missed shifts and pucker moments.

Nope

It took ZERO getting used to. I have a slipper clutch on my 04 so the one time that I did confuse an upshift, it was no big deal.
 
#12 ·
Its just personal preference on the street. A pro would be you can say the shifting isnt normal as an excuse to not let people ride your bike(I do:D ) A con would be someone riding your bike and forgetting and downshifting when they should have upshifted(could be bad) But that would involve someone else riding your bike...... I dont have to worry about that
 
#13 ·
I like it not really any pros or cons on the street. I just like it more and I can go back and forth between the dirtbike and quad just fine. The only time I get stumped going back and forth between offload and street is finding neutral. Always takes me a second at first then I'm fine again
 
#14 ·
I just feel like a change. I love my bike, and done heaps of mods to it, mainly cosmetic, however i just feel like something diff.

I went for a ride with a mate last weekend and he had GP shift on his cbr1000. he loves it and says he never rides any other way, so i thought i'd ask to find out first.

I can definitely see the benefits on it on the track, i've done a few track days, not enough to be like "no GP shift is 100% required" but i can see its benefits.

However i would say that 95% of the time, i'm riding street, and just thought i'd ask to see what people would ride, as i've found its a lot more common than i first though n just wanted to know peoples reasons behind it :)
 
#15 · (Edited)
I'd say that 95% of riders that use it on the street do so so they can say they've got 'GP Shift'. Just like Rossi you know. Makes me fast right. Because that extra 10th of a second on the road is the difference between glory and failure.

My point is, the trickest road bikes you can buy are all 1 down 5 up. For whatever reason, be it just convention or there's an actual reason, that's the way they are. We've had everything trickle down from MotoGP or other racing, radial brakes, upside down forks, traction control etc etc, but the shift pattern for the street has remained the same.

But hey if you like it better, all the power to you.
 
#19 ·
We called it reverse shift for a really long time. I never heard it called GP shift until I saw it on this website. But, I don't get out much. My point, many people ran it reversed, myself included, before it was commonly known as GP shift.
 
#16 ·
It is likely stock one down five up, because it is more intuitive. Up for upshift. Down for downshift.
 
#26 ·
actually the shift pattern is mandated by law. there were days where bike controls were in different places and there was no standard, but it was later legislated where and how certain controls were located. yes there are different locations for customs, but when a manufacturer was to sell "x" number of a model, they had to use mandated locations and manners.
 
#17 ·
I'm a daily rider and use GP shift. Got it just to try for the twisties and it just felt right so I kept it. Personally, I think all bikes should shift this way because kicking down takes much less effort and is faster, both of which I prefer when upshifting. The only con, IMO, is the change in shifting scheme you have to adjust to if you ride other bikes that can't be changed to GP shift.
 
#23 ·
+1

Feels right. I almost didn't try it cause I kept telling myself I would shift wrong and ruin something..after my second ride with GP, I almost couldn't even remember how I used to do it. So natural, never going back
 
#18 ·
My first bike had it done already by the previous owner. I likes it, and kept it. I also did it on my 2nd bike. Why? Do i track my bike? No. Do i think it makes me fast or sounds cool to say i have GP shift? No. I do it because its more comfortable to me. That, and after hearing the logic of why riders do it, i figured why not have my bike setup for optimal performance? Theres a reason riders do it right? It hasnt benefitted me yet, but someday it might.

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#20 ·
I bought a race bike that had GP shift and I got used to it. Switched over my street bike to GP after riding street for 17 years. The only time I *think* about which way to move the lever on the street is when I am upshifting with the clutch, which is really rare. I figured have both bikes the same or I am lible to fuck up at a bad time.
 
#22 ·
I just wanted to try it out one day and mine has been GP ever since. I even have some of my friends ask what do they have to buy to make it GP shift haha. Or I will say you cant ride my bike my shifting is weird


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