Out of first, obviously, is a no-no. IMO, But up on all other gears is much smoother and wont hurt your bike.

 

Out of first, obviously, is a no-no. IMO, But up on all other gears is much smoother and wont hurt your bike.

You can't shift from 1st to 2nd without the clutch?

 

Yes you can. Timing is every thing.

 

This is a age old question...my reply is ....they added a Clutch for a reason...I always use mine...

 

This is a age old question...my reply is ....they added a Clutch for a reason...I always use mine...

My reply is.... the clutch is there for starting and stopping. And downshifting.

 

The clutch is for taking off in 1st and down shifting lol.

 

Out of first, obviously, is a no-no. IMO, But up on all other gears is much smoother and wont hurt your bike.

You can't shift from 1st to 2nd without the clutch?

I don't use the clutch for anything including 1st to 2nd when upshifting, EXCEPT if I'm REALLY taching it out, I'll give just a quick BABY squeeze on it as I back of the throttle with pressure on the shifter. This just smoothes is a tad more. WIth "normal" street driving I never touch it though, other than stopping, starting, and downshifting.

 

I don't even use mine to stop, ever since i learned clutchless shifting i have no need for a cluctch. I removed mine (shrug) when i wanna stop at a light i just slam on my brakes and lay the bike down, then when the light turns green i pick it up and i'm off o¿o

 

I don't even use mine to stop, ever since i learned clutchless shifting i have no need for a cluctch. I removed mine (shrug) when i wanna stop at a light i just slam on my brakes and lay the bike down, then when the light turns green i pick it up and i'm off o¿o

Bwhahahahahahaha!

 

I don't even use mine to stop, ever since i learned clutchless shifting i have no need for a cluctch. I removed mine (shrug) when i wanna stop at a light i just slam on my brakes and lay the bike down, then when the light turns green i pick it up and i'm off o¿o

Bwhahahahahahaha!

I think I need to practice that technique. As soon as I get good with it I will let you know how it's working. Damn.....why didn't I think of that.........should be no clutch wear at all that way.

 

LOL

I use clutchless shifting sometimes, I doubt it hurts the bike. The clutches are hardier than on a car. And what about people who clutch wheelies?

 

LOL
I use clutchless shifting sometimes, I doubt it hurts the bike. The clutches are hardier than on a car. And what about people who clutch wheelies?

Well if your clutching up wheelies, doing drag starts, etc... You definately going to shorten your clutch life considerably... In fact, ask any drag racer on her approximately how many starts they get out of a clutch... The answer will probably surprise you! Just all part of it I guess, if you wanna play, you gotta pay...

 

Clutchless shifting done properly:

http://www.vf750fd.com/blurbs/shifting.html

 

I was upshifting today and a few times it didn't want to go into the next higher gear. I guess my timing was wrong. Good article Milosh.

 

Good =articule....my vote for a sticky!

 

My 750 seems to resist the 1st to 2nd clutchless a bit and therefore I have gone away from it, all others are smooth. I guess it must be the way I am accelerating or timing maybe? ANy suggestions welcomed??

 

My 750 seems to resist the 1st to 2nd clutchless a bit and therefore I have gone away from it, all others are smooth. I guess it must be the way I am accelerating or timing maybe? ANy suggestions welcomed??

Make sure your oil level is a hair above full. Mine use to do the same, sligtly topped off makes it smoother

 

Thanx, I'll see if it helps!

 

yeha i do clutchless shifting
i like it better then using the clutch but i just want to make sure
that it wont cause a problem to the transmission

 

I don't even use mine to stop, ever since i learned clutchless shifting i have no need for a cluctch. I removed mine (shrug) when i wanna stop at a light i just slam on my brakes and lay the bike down, then when the light turns green i pick it up and i'm off o¿o

 

I dunno I think I might have screwed my clutch by clutchless shifting, well that and being a noob......

 

I kinda thought my self how to downshift without using the clutch. You just barely give it any throttle and click it down man. it real easy but you cant do it at high revs obviousely.... but when im slowing for a light hells yeah no prob.

 

I dunno I think I might have screwed my clutch by clutchless shifting, well that and being a noob......

You can't screw the clutch if you're not using it, only the transmission if you force the shift...

 

NAY, big time.

If the throttle is closed prior to upshift there is no harm, it is designed that way. However closing the throttle and shifting in my opinion defeats the purpose, set the clutch lever to where it only has to be pulled in as little as possible like an 1/8 of an inch or less, this way you can apply the clutch easily with two, or even better one finger while maintaining throttle. Holding the throttle open, even opening it slightly more during upshift in my opinion is much faster and certainly more exciting when the front end floats up.

So no cluthless should not damage the bike if done properly but I don't see any reason not to use it, just way quicker and much more powerful to use in the manner I described. In my opinion anyways.

Nice diagram and article Mllosh.

 

thats fu*kin funny!!!!