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Superbike vs superstock tail

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#1 ·
I have been thinking about switching to a superbike tail based on the improved sense of what the rear end is doing. I just have one concern based on what I've read and was hoping someone could clarify for me......I am tall and already feel a little bit cramped between the seat and footpegs. In going to a superbike tail with just a pad (no maxi jokes) did you guys notice the height difference? I'm just worried about being even more cramped. Thanks.
 
#2 ·
I have used both and while i didnt notice the height difference (i am 6'2"), i did notice how damn uncomfortable it was. I use a Supersport kit with the stock seat on everything, even bikes that are only Superbike legal.

During track weekends when i am coaching, i often ride every Intermediate AND Advanced session. Riding 40min of every hour all weekend, i want to be as comfortable as i can.
 
#5 ·
I have used both and while i didnt notice the height difference (i am 6'2"), i did notice how damn uncomfortable it was. I use a Supersport kit with the stock seat on everything, even bikes that are only Superbike legal.
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. . . with one caveat, I note a slight perceived height difference in the two and believe the stock seat allows me to sit a bit lower in the bike (I'm 6'3") = lower center of gravity.

I don't believe you'll get an the improved sense of what the rear end is doing by having a particular tail section. You should be weighting the pegs with your feet and your butt should be barely touching the seat (except on the straights). I've watched far too many people as they go through a corner, weight on the seat and hit a bump/transition, bike gets all unsettled and lowsides or worse (if under power) goes the highside. If my butt has sensed what the rear is doing ... its usually already too late. Use your legs as suspension, feel what the bike is doing through them. :thumbup
 
#3 ·
My superbike tail on my 600 feels a bit taller to be, but then the rear end on my 600 is also jacked up likt 13mm over stock so that might have something to do with it as well. Needless to say I do prefer the comfort of my 1000's stock seat, although I can feel a tiny bit more feedback of what the rear end is doing on the SBK tail. Not sure if its enough to make it worthwhile, but the 600 came with that tail when I bought it.
 
#4 ·
I used to race with a superbike tail, and now I have a supersport tail. I preferred the superbike tail myself because it felt more solid and my body positioning just feels more vague with the stock seat. Comfort was never a problem really with the superbike tail, but I wasn't doing long days in the saddle either. I think I'm gonna switch back to the superbike tail and try it again.
 
#6 ·
Thank you for the info...I feel like I really have to "come up" out of the stock seat in order to switch sides. It take a lot of effort over the course of an entire race/practice session. Plus, I have a vague sense of feel of what the rear end is doing. I was hoping a superbike tail might help with both of these issues, but if it's gonna be uncomfortable as hell and my legs will be more cramped, I guess I'll have to re-think things.
 
#7 ·
The superbike tails tend to sit you taller, so you actually end up with less leg cramping because your legs are bent less (slightly). I'm 6'4" and am much more comfortable on the superbike seat than I am on the stock seat. After the first couple of laps I did with my superbike tail, I had forgotten all about it. If you are tall, I would consider using a superbike tail.

But yeah, I don't know about any improved sense of what the rear is doing. That's just comes with practice and learning about what the bike is telling you.
 
#8 ·
The superbike tails tend to sit you taller, so you actually end up with less leg cramping because your legs are bent less (slightly). I'm 6'4" and am much more comfortable on the superbike seat than I am on the stock seat. After the first couple of laps I did with my superbike tail, I had forgotten all about it. If you are tall, I would consider using a superbike tail.

But yeah, I don't know about any improved sense of what the rear is doing. That's just comes with practice and learning about what the bike is telling you.

That doesn't make sense to me...how can the superbike tail make you sit taller than an OEM seat when it sits directly on the subframe vice having a big cushy pad in between you and the subframe? Intuitively I'm thinking you would sit lower and be more cramped with a superbike tail because you are decreasing butt height.
 
#11 ·
The superbike tails sections I have seen, have a support that holds it well above the subframe. The top of the superbike seat usually ends up where the top of the stock seat would be. Take out the squish of the stock seat, add a foam pad, and they usually ride taller. That has been my experience. I've never seen one where you sit basically right on the subframe rails.
 
#12 ·
Perhaps it varies with different bodywork/bikes (as race bodywork often does). I tried it on my 675 and R6 and didnt like it in either case.

Not to mention, it is just too damn uncomfortable...even with the foam pad. I have never had any issues with feeling the rear tire work with the OEM seat. :dunno