Was this the 2 mile track.

 

I have no idea honestly. They only have one setup for the track though.

 

not bad at all... keep it up. More brakes, less engine braking.

 

:stupid

BTW, see how your video is not using all the available youtube player space, insert this into your keywords when you upload it to youtube:

yt:stretch=4:3 yt:crop=16:9 yt:quality=high

just watch this very short youtube vid it explains it better

I know its fftopic just annoys me HQ vids been in that little box, sorry:flipoff

 

critique? well, quit looking back to see if your camera is still there. I'd rather be out a $200 gopro than take-out myself and another rider.

Other than that, unless you know that track, that camera angle doesn't really let the viewer see what's going on, if you are braking early, comment on your lines etc....

FWIW, if you're on a 600, you often seem to let your revs waaay down on turns when you're just about to come onto a straight.... and also, you sometimes tend to pre-shift yourself off the seat, often way before the turn. Not sure if that's a bad thing or not but you asked.

But if it's only your 2nd track day, I'd say any critique (including braking too early) is nit-picking. Looks like you're having fun, within your skill / confidence level and if I was out sharing the track with you, that's A-OK by me. Much better than some kid riding the ragged edge who's about to take me out from behind because he 'thinks he needs to grow a pair' before he's actually got a handle on the bike / track.

kudos

 

:lol what happened at 1:35?

leaning the bike is one fluid motion, your body and the bike is one unit. You are already sitting half-ass on the bike preparing for the turn-in LONG before the turn is even there. Stay tucked in the seat, get your braking done early, grip the tank with your knees and body, lean, gas all at once.

Just remember, whatever you are doing ontop of the bike, the suspension is doing underneath you. So don't get mad when you go to ask something of the bike and it reacts "funny"

Get that head lower and square up your body and shoulders. Open up that body more. Notice how your ass moves off the seat and your back and upper body don't move at all? = crossing yourself up. It's fine to stay off the bike after a turn, in preparation for the next turn (as long as the turns are the same direction and not to far apart) - but stay off it. No need to bounce around in the seat. The earlier you can make up your mind whether it be about throttling out, braking earlier, or body position, the faster you'll be.

The camera bouncing in the grass at the end is funny though. At least yours happened without you or the bike attached to it.

Put your bike on stands and without busting your ass - have a buddy hold a broom stick just above your windscreen or where your mirrors would be.....try to get your head below the broom stick and kiss the mirror. It's a crazy drill - but works wonders. You don't have to hang way off - it's a drill for the upper body, elbows, and head. If you have no buddy and don't sweep - use a garage door and stop it low and try to peek out under it while on the bike.

 

:lol what happened at 1:35?

leaning the bike is one fluid motion, yada yada yada, I'm awesome, I rock etc.... yada yada yada

What is it with this guy?

A week ago, Professor Lean With It barged into one of my threads in the 1000cc forum when I mentioned scuffs in the paint on my new-to-me K6. Somehow, my mentioning scuffs prompted a hilarious rant about how awesome he is and how hard he rides? :facepalm

To put the previous advice in persective, you gotta start at post 32 in this thread CLICK. Don’t you be editing that yet again professor

The irony is that in any of his youtube vids, while he maintains decent form, he’s not actually ‘leaning’ the bike (professor Lean With It), he hardly ever changes gears and just isn’t actually riding “fast” at all, I mean, at all. Kid, get a grip.

Meanwhile, Bunke10, while you do flip-flop a little in the seat, you’re riding much further down on your rubber, night & day faster and your use of gears is stellar in comparison. So please, given your obviously more advanced skill level in the saddle, please take what you read out here with the 1/2 grain of salt it deserves. Keep turning laps and I can’t wait to see videos from last day of this season.

On that track, you wouldn't be far behind me on my 1000 and I'd be using my motor to keep up front :cheers

 

Yeah I guess maybe I do set up for turns a little bit early.

By "grow a pair and brake later" I don't mean go and banzai into every turn. Just brake later and carry more entry speed.

My RPM's were much higher in most places where they dipped a bit later on in the day as I got faster.

And as for my head not being low enough, well I need a bigger suit now lol or a smaller chest/back protector. It's hard to breathe with all that gear packed in there and therefore also hard to move where I want to. I could also use some flexibility as well lol

Thanks for the comments :thumbup

 

Setting up early wouldn't be so bad if you were actually using a braking marker instead of engine braking. I don't think you really need to change much there it will smooth out as you get faster.

Yep, riding position is crossed up, relax a little.

Tight leathers suck (other than on chix)... my greedy ass eliminated most of the room to roam in my suit. And yes, its uncomfortable and makes it difficult to get the right BP... yanking these things around is difficult enough.

 

I did actually make some use of brake markers later in the day and then on Sunday. I managed to run a couple laps in the 1:31's in my last session on Sunday (backwards) which included a lot more braking with the addition of downshifting.

There was so much progression made that I think I look slow in this video lol and at the time I thought I was flying.

Unfortunately as time went on I felt like I was just trying too hard to drag knee and kept getting more crossed up.

At one point in time I kept telling myself to literally lay my chest on the tank to keep the head down and stay in line with the bike. I'm not really sure what happened to that lol

 

I did actually make some use of brake markers later in the day and then on Sunday. I managed to run a couple laps in the 1:31's in my last session on Sunday (backwards) which included a lot more braking with the addition of downshifting.

There was so much progression made that I think I look slow in this video lol and at the time I thought I was flying.

Unfortunately as time went on I felt like I was just trying too hard to drag knee and kept getting more crossed up.

At one point in time I kept telling myself to literally lay my chest on the tank to keep the head down and stay in line with the bike. I'm not really sure what happened to that lol

First of all, forget about Derek and the french guy trying to convince each other who has the bigger dick. It doesnt matter.

OK now GET RID OF THE LAP TIMER!!!!!!!! Especially if you can see it while you are on track, you are gonna start chasing lap times and that will get you in trouble. I have not timed one of my laps, one day something just clicked and I picked up a considerable amount of time, so now I will start timing a couple laps.

I didnt get a chance to watch the video cause I am at work, but I will later. Instead of worrying about what everyone else is telling you about your body position, listen to yourself about it. No two people are built the same so no 2 people are gonna ride exactly the same, sure there are general ideas that you need to follow, ther is no "right, but there is a wrong. before worrying about your body position work on your line first, take your time and get it right before moving on. It is the most important part of going fast. You can go slow on a fast line but you cant go fast on a slow line. make sure you are hitting your entry, apex and exit point, make sure you hold a predictable line, dont make turns where there isnt supposed to be one. the guy trying to pass you needs that space and he expects you to stay where you are whether you are right or wrong, so if you take the wrong line be cautious about getting back on line or just stay ther till the next turn. the fast guy behind is depending on you to stay on the line you are on.

 

^^ I like this guy. :cheers

 

thats a good video and it looks like you were having fun. just focus more on riding and dont worry about the critique. over time all the instincts will add up and you will do everything perfect. cant wait to get on the track myself!

 

oh and this needs to be shared since it was about 3 spots over in the pits.

 

Did you encounter a tank slapper at the end of the video?

 

Rear started to slip and yes I almost highsided and went into a little tank slapper. Stood it up and went off about 2 feet into the grass and got back on the track about 75 yards further down.

 

yeah i was wondering the same......... looks like you almost came off the bike then in the grass then the cam falls off

 

mike czysz advocates having your bp set up prior to braking fwiw. I think you're going pretty well. Head out and more seat time

 

Actually I would like to hear some constructive criticism from the instructors on this forum. That would be helpful.

 

wow it sounds like 2 guys on this thread are naked camping together lol

 

ogle

 

I want to go naked camp. Can I join in and talk about how pro I am?

 

Naked camp, must be a gdc thing. Not sure I wanna attend. But to throw it out there one last time, the point I keep making is I'm far from pro, or even 'fast' by more serious track standards, while my smiley-face-abusing counterpart seems to lack the same objectivity.

The more you know, the more you realize how little you know

Hey Le Skidmark, whilst very eloquently written, you sound like an absolute turd.

'Peace man'

nice to know I haven't lost my touch

 

:spit Le Skidmark...

 

OK... that previous exchange was useless... suffice it to say, you are doing just fine for your 2nd trackday bro.

 

Thanks man.

I'm gonna try to get more footage on the 22nd since I plan to go back up there for another day. Hopefully I can show some progression

 

And whoever mentioned the bike being down to 3k rpm's (Probably Lean With It): No, it never dropped below 6.5-7k. It probably just sounded that way since I had it running at 12-13k for so long.

Yes, I could have downshifted and then upshifted as soon as I got out of the corner, but I'm not racing yet so fuck it. And anyway, I built up enough corner speed in all of those corners that it was dipping to the point that by the end of the day Sunday, I don't think it dropped below 8k in the same gear.

 

And whoever mentioned the bike being down to 3k rpm's (Probably Lean With It): No, it never dropped below 6.5-7k. It probably just sounded that way since I had it running at 12-13k for so long.

Yes, I could have downshifted and then upshifted as soon as I got out of the corner, but I'm not racing yet so fuck it. And anyway, I built up enough corner speed in all of those corners that it was dipping to the point that by the end of the day Sunday, I don't think it dropped below 8k in the same gear.

read ya boy le skidmarked post again :facepalm I think he was talking about my vids, who the fuck knows what he was talking about. And in my vids, the view angle never has the tach visible :lol so again...what the fuck is he talking about? what a douchecanoe. I can directly relate to your BP in the vid, if you want to see, check my youtube link my sig and watch the vid "RT33 Mountain dancing" our BP is identical and I fixed it with the same advice I gave you that I received from others.

I actually gave you meaningful advice, - should you or anyone else not take it as such, don't really care. I made no mention of you being anywhere in the powerband (especially at the view angle of your vid...can't even see the damn tach :facepalm ) You posted up and asked for a critique, sorry I wasn't all nice and sugar coat shit for you and say "great stuff for your 2nd day" cuz that's a great critique and a wealth of info for you to build off of. :thumbup

 

finally had some footage uploaded of the track day 3 weeks after original video was taken.