I really need help i have a gsxr 600 2000 model .. .my friend put the battery the wrong way round and now wont spark ... I have changed all fuses . The cdi rectifier coil bypassed the kill switch side stand switch and clutch switch but still have no spark from any spark plugs i changed a black omron box near to the cdi i don't know what that is called . I have disconnected indicators as all work lights work horn fuel pump all works it turns over but no spark ive changed all 4 spark plugs .. Umm ive cleaned all 4 carbs i don't know why i just got bored of trying to fix it .. Ive got to the point where i have no idea ive tryed to learn how to use a multi meter or volt meter but i have no idea what all the numbers and settings are ive watched videos i just don't know ... I am so so stuck and been told it will cost alot just to get some one to look i just don't know what to do
GSXR 600 2000 No Spark After Battery Reverse, Troubleshooting Help Needed
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I really need help i have a gsxr 600 2000 model .. .my friend put the battery the wrong way round and now wont spark ... I have changed all fuses . The cdi rectifier coil bypassed the kill switch side stand switch and clutch switch but still have no spark from any spark plugs i changed a black omron box near to the cdi i don't know what that is called . I have disconnected indicators as all work lights work horn fuel pump all works it turns over but no spark ive changed all 4 spark plugs .. Umm ive cleaned all 4 carbs i don't know why i just got bored of trying to fix it .. Ive got to the point where i have no idea ive tryed to learn how to use a multi meter or volt meter but i have no idea what all the numbers and settings are ive watched videos i just don't know ... I am so so stuck and been told it will cost alot just to get some one to look i just don't know what to do
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I have a brand new cdi
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How do you know it's no spark? Remove ,ground n check?
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Post a pic of ur meter and I'm sure the peeps on this site can guide u through some of the checks.
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I changed all 15 a fuses 10 a fuses 30a fuses every single fuse has been changed ..i know there no spark because i hold my finger on a spark plug when trying to turn it over .. Its werid because as i said ill turn the key lights come on clocks light up rear light on indicators flash fuel pump primes and it turns over but there is no spark in any spark plug i have stripped back half the wireing loom to see of there is a split in a cable that may be shortening or earthing it out but i cant see anything i don't know how to upload a picture onto here as i use a windows phone as stupid girlfriend dropped my laptop off the bed last week .
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thats not how you find spark, the PLUG THREADS have to be grounded real GOOD
take a pair of pliers with rubber handles and hold the plug threads onto a good solid ground like the headstock of the bike and turn the garage lights off just to be 100%
not saying you don't have spark just be sure to ground proper then check, best way is to have someone shut the lights then crank when you have the plug grounded properly..
I am guessing on the 30 amp fuse that's the link that breaks in case of this happening, manufacturers since like the 70s have been installing fusible links in case a battery is jumped backwards to save the sensitive ECU's and or brains..
but yea it shouldnt turn over if that main pops unless you popped just the ignition fuse, get a service manual and chase down all fuses and check each fuse with a tester or put in a known working system, seems to me if you have a new CDI and all the other new parts its nothing to panic over just missing something simple..
you may have blown a ground wire off its perch, check the main ground by the starter on the top of the tranny, you may have melted that if the fuse didn’t pop that may have been where the link broke?
it would have broken somewhere, may have even burned off f you left the battery connected backwards?
hmm, keep looking around and get the wiring schematics and start checking continuity, grounds and connections... highly unlikey you blew your coil sticks but hey stranger things have been known to happen?
give us a little more info on what really happened, were the terminals connected and bolted down backwards or just touched for a sec?
was the any smoke? can you smell anything funky like burnt if you sniff around?
take a pair of pliers with rubber handles and hold the plug threads onto a good solid ground like the headstock of the bike and turn the garage lights off just to be 100%
not saying you don't have spark just be sure to ground proper then check, best way is to have someone shut the lights then crank when you have the plug grounded properly..
I am guessing on the 30 amp fuse that's the link that breaks in case of this happening, manufacturers since like the 70s have been installing fusible links in case a battery is jumped backwards to save the sensitive ECU's and or brains..
but yea it shouldnt turn over if that main pops unless you popped just the ignition fuse, get a service manual and chase down all fuses and check each fuse with a tester or put in a known working system, seems to me if you have a new CDI and all the other new parts its nothing to panic over just missing something simple..
you may have blown a ground wire off its perch, check the main ground by the starter on the top of the tranny, you may have melted that if the fuse didn’t pop that may have been where the link broke?
it would have broken somewhere, may have even burned off f you left the battery connected backwards?
hmm, keep looking around and get the wiring schematics and start checking continuity, grounds and connections... highly unlikey you blew your coil sticks but hey stranger things have been known to happen?
give us a little more info on what really happened, were the terminals connected and bolted down backwards or just touched for a sec?
was the any smoke? can you smell anything funky like burnt if you sniff around?
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Yeah my friend had checked the spark plug threads and is grounded properly .. He says just to buy a new wireing loom incase there is a split .. I remember when i got it it was sparking and i shook the wireing loom and it was an intermittent spark now no spark at all .. I have done all checks i can think of .. Its just very weird .. I have a spare wireing loom at a friends which im getting dressed now to go and get i will put the new wireing loom on today and hopefully it will start to spark .. I just am loseing interest in fixing it and getting to the point where in giving up and just going to sell it like 800 pound lol ..
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Oh and no there wasn't any smoke or any burning smell and the battery was bolted in and then turned on it blew the fuse and then changed all and still no spark
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Wouldn't just go buy a new harness on a hunch. If he was the one that put the bat on backwords and suggested the new harness.. Let him purchase it.. Further more, this buddy installed your batt backwords and suggests you go spend around 500$ or more for something he potentially broke? I would stop having your buddy touch your bike.
Have you looked at a wiring diagram yet? Have you tested everything as per the service manual? Have you atleast done point to point checks with a multimeter along the wiring path your testing, then testing the component as you go along? Have you even sat down, drank a beer, devised a plan of attack and engaged? If your just randomly testing whatever you can think of, your not going to pin point your problem. Starting with the harness sounds like a good idea, but if your doing it blind. Your wasting your time.
600 srad service manual:
http://servicemanualsgsxr.com/600/Suzuki_GSX-R_600_97-2000.pdf.zip
Wiring diagram:
http://s16.postimg.org/9vjgfbjmd/GSX_R600_WXY.jpg
Would start with new spark plugs, test the coils as per manual states, test the wiring between the coils, then follow the entire wiring back. My bet would be that you just have a bad ground somewhere or the spark signal itself is getting grounded out before reaching the coils. Prolly from when the battery was installed backwords and it melted the sucker in a spot or two. Hopefully you guys disconnected it quickly enough so that the wires didn't melt to eachother... that's allways a PITA to cut, trim , patch, resoder, recoat... Happy hunting!
Have you looked at a wiring diagram yet? Have you tested everything as per the service manual? Have you atleast done point to point checks with a multimeter along the wiring path your testing, then testing the component as you go along? Have you even sat down, drank a beer, devised a plan of attack and engaged? If your just randomly testing whatever you can think of, your not going to pin point your problem. Starting with the harness sounds like a good idea, but if your doing it blind. Your wasting your time.
600 srad service manual:
http://servicemanualsgsxr.com/600/Suzuki_GSX-R_600_97-2000.pdf.zip
Wiring diagram:
http://s16.postimg.org/9vjgfbjmd/GSX_R600_WXY.jpg
Would start with new spark plugs, test the coils as per manual states, test the wiring between the coils, then follow the entire wiring back. My bet would be that you just have a bad ground somewhere or the spark signal itself is getting grounded out before reaching the coils. Prolly from when the battery was installed backwords and it melted the sucker in a spot or two. Hopefully you guys disconnected it quickly enough so that the wires didn't melt to eachother... that's allways a PITA to cut, trim , patch, resoder, recoat... Happy hunting!
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Drop it off at my place first, Ill make it run for free.
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I got a wiring loom off my mate he had a spare one he bought i reattached the plug holders with new cable i stripped off most of the front of my look and cannot see a split in any cable or any wore toching or earthing out i changed the solanoid i think its called i put a new fuse .. Still no spark .. Ive begun to take off the wires attached to all 4 carbs no split..umm i don't have a laptop but ive tryed downloading the Haynes manual on phone but the pdf wont open .. I cant see any wire shorting or being earthed .. Ive disconnected the kill switch just incase took it apart cleaned it same as the clutch and side stand .. I need somebody to come have a look i don't mind paying i live in the uk Hertfordshire ... There is a tiny sort of rectangle with an arch on top attached to the connection between the carbs and spark plug i don't know what its called if you tell me how to upload a picture to this site i will upload many pictures and videos but i don't know how ive never used the site until last night
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Okay i cant upload or download a picture of the stuff it wont allow me to do so on this phone its a lumia 925 so it should .. Ive been out again put new umm are they plugs the long black things that the spark plugs go into .. As well as the caps they slot into on the wireing loom... The weird wire i was talking about has 2 yellow wires coming out of it into a black connector which has a orange and black wire ..it seems to run up the loom and into the wires where they all split to connect or each spark plug .. IM trying to give as much detail as i cant upload pics ...maybe that need changing .. Arghhh i want to give up i cant be arsed paying for stuff but i want it working again
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If the bike ran before the battery incident, it wouldn't be the spark plug boots that are the problem. Something popped or got blown and it has nothing to do with spark plugs. You are just replacing random parts and wasting time and money.
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Spend a few on a multimeter... get a spool of wire and extend your probes... Print off that wiring diagram I linked. As you go along testing wire by wire and testing near by wires incase of melted shielding causing wires to touch... Fix problems as you go, check mounting and connectors .. and check it off on the wiring diagram as you go along so u don't need to double back and mess with it again.
Shouldn't buy or install a new part unless you have tested/inspected it properly and know its junked.
Maybe check a few youtube videos on how to test wiring for continuity using a multimeter... its simple .... put the sucker on diode or ohm setting... if things move then stops on a number, you got a connection between the two points... If the thing is flakey or doesn't give a readout unless you move something, you got a intermittent break in the wire...if theres no change on the readout from the two ends, you got a break in the connection. Components, refer to the manual or ask us how to test them.
Heres a vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDzRsOpne_Q
Other than this man, I dunno how to advise ya. If this is too much, you might need to take the sucker to a shop. But this is pretty easy stuff, its just very time consuming...
Shouldn't buy or install a new part unless you have tested/inspected it properly and know its junked.
Maybe check a few youtube videos on how to test wiring for continuity using a multimeter... its simple .... put the sucker on diode or ohm setting... if things move then stops on a number, you got a connection between the two points... If the thing is flakey or doesn't give a readout unless you move something, you got a intermittent break in the wire...if theres no change on the readout from the two ends, you got a break in the connection. Components, refer to the manual or ask us how to test them.
Heres a vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDzRsOpne_Q
Other than this man, I dunno how to advise ya. If this is too much, you might need to take the sucker to a shop. But this is pretty easy stuff, its just very time consuming...
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my guess is he still hasn’t replaced the proper fuse, sounds like ignition if its turning over but no spark, OR
its a burnt wire or connection, I would take Monoliths advice and Dload the manual whatever it takes borrow a laptop whatever, then sit down and devise a reasonable plan of attack
stop just randomly replacing stuff, the SRAD bible has a very well thought out plan of attack for just this, "no spark"
you follow their steps to the tee and you will find the culprit but for now sounds as if you are just chasing your tail..
take a couple deep breaths, relax and come up with a plan, it is well worth it as I think you have anything that would cost anything already new so its just a matter of finding the obvious or a hidden gremlin somewhere
also pics are going to be a big help so sort that out as well, I doubt this is going to be your only issue if you are going to be a rider for life so may as well gear up and be prepared only helps future issues get resolved faster
its a burnt wire or connection, I would take Monoliths advice and Dload the manual whatever it takes borrow a laptop whatever, then sit down and devise a reasonable plan of attack
stop just randomly replacing stuff, the SRAD bible has a very well thought out plan of attack for just this, "no spark"
you follow their steps to the tee and you will find the culprit but for now sounds as if you are just chasing your tail..
take a couple deep breaths, relax and come up with a plan, it is well worth it as I think you have anything that would cost anything already new so its just a matter of finding the obvious or a hidden gremlin somewhere
also pics are going to be a big help so sort that out as well, I doubt this is going to be your only issue if you are going to be a rider for life so may as well gear up and be prepared only helps future issues get resolved faster
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