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I didn't know they made turbos small enough for a 600. But I guess these engines really breath hell they make 106 hp from .6 liters. What happens if you put a turbo in the way? I can imagine it has much benifite as it would be too laggy as in you would need to shift before the turbo even spooled up.

Also don't you need to upgrade the oil pump as well?

Sorry what is a DSM? seams like a lot of money to put into a junk yard turbo personally.
A small turbo can be set to spool up around 6 to 7 grand where the bike starts making its power anyway..

You know, the same effect of a small turbo on a car. Less potential for big power. More potential for quicker power.
 
Thanks, thats all i wanted was suggestions on a turbo for my bike, not everyones opinion of what i do and dont wanna do with my bike ;p i plan on gettin a GSXR1K once im out of school, and i dont do track days, and yes, turbo boost sounds like fun to me lol, have a purpose? Nothing more than fun. And thats why i have my streetbike to begin with!
Shocker that you got opinions on a public forum. And if you want to split hairs with wording, every one's SUGGESTIONS to you were not to do it because it's fucking stupid. Suggestions don't automatically mean that everyone should agree with you. Seems to me you got exactly what you asked for.
 
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I dont see what the big deal is guys, upgrading couple parts, addin intercooler an manifold.. itd be fun. Iv got a turbo for a V8 diesel sittin in my closet, i could trade down to a lil turbo lol. You guys can hate all you want, i dont hate on your hobbies, im a tinkerer, it seems like itd be a fun project.
 
I think you are under estimating how much effort this mod takes to make it worthwhile. Besides all the intake work, exhaust work, etc. you need to get a good tuner to dial it all in. If you make a mistake with A/F ratios you can grenade the motor and then you start over.

What about brakes? You are going to turbo your bike, so how are you going to stop it?
 
I dont see what the big deal is guys, upgrading couple parts, addin intercooler an manifold.. itd be fun. Iv got a turbo for a V8 diesel sittin in my closet, i could trade down to a lil turbo lol. You guys can hate all you want, i dont hate on your hobbies, im a tinkerer, it seems like itd be a fun project.
Its could be simple,but if you don't get it right,you going to have a shit load of problems,a blown motor for one.Did you ever see what happens when a wastegate fails and you wind up spiking boost on a factory high compression motor?
 
I dont see what the big deal is guys, upgrading couple parts, addin intercooler an manifold.. itd be fun. Iv got a turbo for a V8 diesel sittin in my closet, i could trade down to a lil turbo lol. You guys can hate all you want, i dont hate on your hobbies, im a tinkerer, it seems like itd be a fun project.
Then do it. Why bother asking?
 
I think you are under estimating how much effort this mod takes to make it worthwhile. Besides all the intake work, exhaust work, etc. you need to get a good tuner to dial it all in. If you make a mistake with A/F ratios you can grenade the motor and then you start over.

What about brakes? You are going to turbo your bike, so how are you going to stop it?
This. It's honestly a LOT of work/money on a CAR, a bike is going to be a LOT more. Not only do you need the parts (much longer list than you listed) but you need the SPACE, which is something a sport bike is lacking severely. I own a couple of DSM's (for those that don't know they are Eagle Talon, Mitsubishi Eclipse, and Plymouth Laser from the years 89-99, generally the turbo'd models are the ones MAINLY considered a DSM) and making power on them isn't cheap and they're one of the cheapest cars to make fast.

Oh and if that turbo you have is a holset, PM me. I'd definitely be interested as my 16g is too small now for a 2.3L. I've got a few 14b's/t-25's I could probably trade if you're dead set on boosting your gixxer.
 
How are just the turbo ones now considered DSMs? :blink

I had a 93 Talon TSi.

DSM is "Diamond Star Motors" a joint venture between chrysler and Mitsubishi (you know the star, and the diamonds :D), to make the Gallant, laser, eclipse, and talon. CHrysler made the chassis basically, and Mitsu the engines... and they put them together in Illinois.
 
How are just the turbo ones now considered DSMs? :blink

I had a 93 Talon TSi.

DSM is "Diamond Star Motors" a joint venture between chrysler and Mitsubishi (you know the star, and the diamonds :D), to make the Gallant, laser, eclipse, and talon. CHrysler made the chassis basically, and Mitsu the engines... and they put them together in Illinois.
They're not, but I was generalizing so I didn't have to explain 1ga/b 2ga/b etc. Not that 2g's are really DSM's anyways, and the non turbo 2g's... psh, 420a can't even be considered. :p

Did you have anything done to your Talon? I have two 90 AWD tsi's, a 98 gsx, 98 gst spyder (being awd converted) and had a 95 TSI awd. My main 90 is one of the first 200 AWD talons ever produced. :biggrin
 
Nope. Not really. It was before the tuner car revolution when I had it :lmao. People were JUST starting to fuck with them a little bit, but not much. It had blown up some on the west coast, but not made it to the east coast yet really. People here were still doing mini trucks and shit.
 
Op your an idiot nuff said

I fucking LOVE when an idiot tries to call someone else an idiot and uses the wrong "your".

Who is the idiot now? You are :thumbup. It is "you're" that you were looking for :cheers
 
:facepalm

Doing a proper turbo setup is gonna cost you just as much as it would if you sold your 600 and bought a 1000, and with the 1000 you won't have to worry about tuning or reliability issues.
 
Are those the stage 1 type DSMs? My firends eclips put out near 450 hp. If he had the same turbo your talking about it would probably push 40-50lbs of boost in these tiny little engines. Even if you cranked it way down I dont think you would be anywhere near the happy zone for those turbos. A turbo like that is better suited for a stage 3 busa. OP woudl probably be better off finding a used stage one busa turbo from someone who is upgrading.

Sounds like a fun project I would recommend a mig welder so you can build your own intake manafold. and make sure to do a lot of reading on intake designs. Something about the air pulses frequescy is related to the pipe lenght will give you your peak power at a certain RPM. And dont expect to do this project for less then 2k.
 
Are those the stage 1 type DSMs? My firends eclips put out near 450 hp. If he had the same turbo your talking about it would probably push 40-50lbs of boost in these tiny little engines. Even if you cranked it way down I dont think you would be anywhere near the happy zone for those turbos. A turbo like that is better suited for a stage 3 busa. OP woudl probably be better off finding a used stage one busa turbo from someone who is upgrading.

Sounds like a fun project I would recommend a mig welder so you can build your own intake manafold. and make sure to do a lot of reading on intake designs. Something about the air pulses frequescy is related to the pipe lenght will give you your peak power at a certain RPM. And dont expect to do this project for less then 2k.
What the fuck is a "stage 1" these aren't honda's. :hammer

Secondly, none of the turbo's I listed can even PUSH 32lbs. You clearly don't know shit about turbo's or DSM's and even your eclipse does have 450hp it definitely wasn't built by you.

No advice is better than bad advice. :bitchslap
 
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