im watching a motogp recording right now and i saw a tire is a battlax on one of the hondas. is this tire the same as the street ones just without the tread cut into it?
are track tires the same as street tires?
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im watching a motogp recording right now and i saw a tire is a battlax on one of the hondas. is this tire the same as the street ones just without the tread cut into it?
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Nope, especially not slicks. Well, in the sense that they are round and black, yeah - but the carcass construction, the rubber compounds, the profile, etc. are made for one thing: Going fast around a track. Street tires are full of compromises - they need to work under a variety of temperatures and weather conditions, to last for a decent mileage, stuff like that. The latter also have a WAY lower optimal working temperature...
And MotoGP slicks are from another planet entirely.
There ARE some street/track tires a.k.a. DOT race tires a.k.a. hybrid tires that are track tires that are street legal - they are somewhere in between but not as focused as pure race tires...
And MotoGP slicks are from another planet entirely.
There ARE some street/track tires a.k.a. DOT race tires a.k.a. hybrid tires that are track tires that are street legal - they are somewhere in between but not as focused as pure race tires...
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yeah they were having a lot of trouble with them warming up. a bunch of people are crashing
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Yep, race tires are MUCH more sensitive to temperature than street tires. To be able to withstand the high temperatures that come at high cornering speeds, the compound needs to be different - which means that they don't work well when cold (cold being below 120F or so) - at all. They need tire warmers too.
Also, there are different compounds (hardnesses) for different track conditions (mainly ambient temperature).
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Regarding profiles - you know how people are discussion 190/50 vs. 190/55 rear tires? (the second number being the tire height in percentage of the width, the first number) - on my race bike I use Michelin Slicks, about the closest thing to GP tires that you can buy as a private person. The rear tire is a 190/69 :lmao
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Not only are the MotoGP tires special, they are custom made for each track. Bridgestone makes 2 or 3 compounds for each race and bring two choices, plus wets for the riders.
AMA races. some use slicks and some use DOT tires. But all are tires that any racer (Slicks) or rider (DOT) can buy.
AMA races. some use slicks and some use DOT tires. But all are tires that any racer (Slicks) or rider (DOT) can buy.
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A good example was when Ben Bostrom took his LCR Honda GP bike and was running 4 second off of the leaders. He pulled in because it kept running off track and did not want to crash a Moto GP bike. At second off pace, the tires were not getting the heat they needed to get really sticky
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All AMA riders are on Dunlops. Dunlop is the spec tire provider for the AMA.
The Superbikes are on Slicks and the SS/DSB's are on DOT's.
In many case, the DOT's are the SAME compound as the Slicks, they simply have groove's cut in them to make them DOT legal. That does NOT mean they are good on the street.
I always find it comical when squids talk about themselves or somebody else being on race tires on the street and how that is some kind of advantage. :facepalm
On the street, you will not get race tires up to optimum working temperature, so you are better off with street/hybrid tires.
The Superbikes are on Slicks and the SS/DSB's are on DOT's.
In many case, the DOT's are the SAME compound as the Slicks, they simply have groove's cut in them to make them DOT legal. That does NOT mean they are good on the street.
I always find it comical when squids talk about themselves or somebody else being on race tires on the street and how that is some kind of advantage. :facepalm
On the street, you will not get race tires up to optimum working temperature, so you are better off with street/hybrid tires.
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IMO the 195/65 Ntec Slick is probably the best rear tire on the planet.
It is too bad I can't use it though; I can't get my geometry right for it. I probably could with some fork extensions, but my 675 won't spin a DOT that is in relatively good condition so I haven't worried about it.
It is too bad I can't use it though; I can't get my geometry right for it. I probably could with some fork extensions, but my 675 won't spin a DOT that is in relatively good condition so I haven't worried about it.
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