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I was thinking about using 89 octane. Will it mess anything up?
 
Feel free to run 87. Your 2001 GSX-R600 does not require you to run anything over 87 octane. I owned the same gixxer 600 as you and put over 40K miles on it with 87 octane. The bike will run just fine and not mess up anything. You'll save money too.
 
93... It takes lke a 6 gallon tank in my area its 2.90 for 93 so its like 13 bucks to fill up, dont be cheap.. fool..
There is nothing "premium" about premium fuel. It is simply different. One of the "best/worst" marketing ploys ever was to name the fuels regular plus and premium :wacko. Running it in an engine not tuned for it is a waste of money, pointless, and actually a lot of the time will make LESS power with it.


OP, your bike will run fine, or even better, on regular gas.
 
Depending on how hard you run it. Do they put 87 in race bikes?? Nah. It's your personal choice in the end.

Wrong, yes, and no its not really...... unless you like literally burning money for absolutely ZERO reason.

I run 87 in my race bike, and thousands of guys with 600s do. And they even make race fuel for race bikes that is only 89. "how hard you run it" has NOTHING to do with octane. The only think octane does is resist detonation, which is determined by compression, and timing. "running it hard" does not change either of those things. If the compression and timing of your motor, only requires 87 (as the 600s do) running anything more makes less power, and costs more. No point to it at all.
and since I mentioned race fuel, dont make the mistake of thinking "race fuel is usually high octane, so high octane makes more power". That is COMPLETELY false. Race fuel is high octane because most race vehicles are tuned in such a way that they NEED high octane. That has nothing to do with the fuel making more power, but rather a motor making more power requiring the fuel. The octane is not what makes race fuel make power. The additives, and the motor it is run in and that is tuned for it is what makes power....... the fuel just allows a higher state of tune.


"premium" is an advertising ploy. If you dont believe me, research it yourself. But just blindly believing is foolish :thumbup
 
Seen race (car) motors on the dyno loose power with C16 over C12. My motor is just under 11:1 and can run of 91 pump gas with 34* timing but bump it up to the 36* it likes and I have to mix it 50/50 with C12. When I run it on the bottle (most of the time) I run straight C12.

Ya I know this is a bike forum, so back on track, anyway Joe what about the 93 octane Mohawk stuff with under 10% ethenol, should I stay away from it for my K6-1000 and stay with just plain 91? Reason I ask is sometimes it's what's available to avoid our Co-op 91 that is crap and makes my Escalade ping so I try to avoid it at all costs.
 
I personally dont like the idea of any ethanol. And our bikes were not specifically designed to work with ethanol. But in most areas it is getting nearly impossible to find it without up to 10% ethanol these days, and I have not heard of it causing issues on any modern FI bike.

It CAN cause some strange issues with some of the carbed bikes though I have found
 
Wrong, yes, and no its not really...... unless you like literally burning money for absolutely ZERO reason.

I run 87 in my race bike, and thousands of guys with 600s do. And they even make race fuel for race bikes that is only 89. "how hard you run it" has NOTHING to do with octane. The only think octane does is resist detonation, which is determined by compression, and timing. "running it hard" does not change either of those things. If the compression and timing of your motor, only requires 87 (as the 600s do) running anything more makes less power, and costs more. No point to it at all.
and since I mentioned race fuel, dont make the mistake of thinking "race fuel is usually high octane, so high octane makes more power". That is COMPLETELY false. Race fuel is high octane because most race vehicles are tuned in such a way that they NEED high octane. That has nothing to do with the fuel making more power, but rather a motor making more power requiring the fuel. The octane is not what makes race fuel make power. The additives, and the motor it is run in and that is tuned for it is what makes power....... the fuel just allows a higher state of tune.


"premium" is an advertising ploy. If you dont believe me, research it yourself. But just blindly believing is foolish :thumbup
So with that being said, If you get you're bike tuned. A 750 per say, which manufacturer suggests nothing under 90 octane. And you have the bike tuned while the bike is running on let's say 93 octane. After that point, I think it would be wise to stay with that number of octane being the bike was tuned with that particular octane. Sound right ? I realize it's a little different with 600's and know many people that run them on 87 octane, with no probs. Infact that what it's suggested to be run on. It's funny to watch people put higher octanes in motors that don't require it, thinking the motor will run better. When in fact, just like Joe said, it will if anything run worse. I don't know how true this statement is, but I've heard several times that on most of the higher cc bikes, 89 octane produces the most horsepower.
 
Depending on how hard you run it. Do they put 87 in race bikes?? Nah. It's your personal choice in the end.
You SERIOUSLY need to do some research. This post is so full of fail.
 
You SERIOUSLY need to do some research. This post is so full of fail.
That's what this is about right??? Research? Google.com But like I said, in the end it's the DRIVERS CHOICE what they want to put in their vehicle. Whether or not it is best for the engine, that's up to the people that designed the engine and spent thousands of hours testing it to find out what works best. I'm apt to go with what the engineers of the engine recommend. Do what you want though. :scared
 
Your original post insinuated that people's octane choice should depend on how hard they run their bike. You even went as far as to say that people don't use 87 octane in race bikes as logic for your first point.

Like i said, that doesnt make sense. Go back and read Joe's post.
 
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