[gimpsta]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

as far as stunting, gear it just a tad and u can pull even an '02 6 up in 4th at 110 or so. I've done it with a bounce no clutch!!
So everything else is cake for stunts.

when people talk or tell me they are buying a 1k and have never ridden b4, i give them this 10 min slamming about how stupid they are. so far neither of them have purchased bikes "all talk" or they bought smaller bikes with no regret.

If people ask why i got a 6, i just tell them they evidently know nothing about bikes then. Then we go ride and they love how i just stay right behind them on the twisties "don't like the front" and i'm flying doing wheelies at everyspeed from 110 or so less just like they are. You get alot more praise riding a 6 from peeps, then looking stupid and scary riding a 1k. If they ask laugh and make them feel stupid is all I do. Only a person who knows anything about bikes won't even ask that kind of question. Nothing is wrong with a 1k, but nothing is wrong with a 6 or 7.5

at my last track day = almost 0 liter bikes. The ones that were there 2 of the 5 wrecked. 75 bikes there.

truthfully when i got my 600, it was cause i was dead scared of anything bigger, and a little worried that buying a bike would be a mistake. I've never ridden b4 so it was a big leap. I rode a dirt bike on the road for a few weeks to get use to traffic and how to handle the bike. I didn't get the 6 cause i thought it was any good, i just didn't think i could handle anything else. little did i know i got the 6, the best one out there.

the 750 is the best, buts its just an upgraded 6 is why i say that

i never ridden a 750. just an old r1 for a few miles.

 

[aronhalt]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

I wanna make a few points here:

1. Yes the 600 is plenty fast, and more than most can handle (actually more than should be legal).

2. Unless you are on a really twisty road with an average speed down in the 30's. You are not going to outrun a 1k. Sorry to burst your bubble, I had a 600, now I have an R1 and a 750. The six I had would absolutely not touch the R1 once up to speed. At the higher speeds, traction is no longer an issue and the one that can push the most air wins.

3. The 1k's are no longer heavy.

4. The 0.1 sec gain a 600 gets in 50mph sweeper, is chewed up in about 0.0001 seconds on the way to the next corner.

Haha, this all assumes that the person riding the 1k can actually control the power, lets see, who would that be? Mladin? Rossi maybe? My R1 had as much power at 6k rpms as the ZX6R had at 12k.

Sorry to ruin your soggy dream, I love to stir up crap...but it is true. The only redeming factor is that on the 600 it is easier to put the power down and requires less skill.

 

[Bmann29]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

Hey Aronhalt Can you clearify this before peeps jump to conclusion?

Sorry to ruin your soggy dream, I love to stir up crap...but it is true. The only redeming factor is that on the 600 it is easier to put the power down and requires less skill.

 

[Htown1000]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

well I got my k4 750 in april and I got it because I know it was enough juice for me. As everyone has mentioned handling, weight, power are great on this bike and the six and I don't need the extra hp that the 1k gives. I'm more interested in being a great rider and you don't need the most powerful bike on the floor to prove that trust me. Just tell the jackasses that you got that bike because that's the one you wanted and meet you at the nearest twisties and see what they say...

prev post that wants to stir it up you missed the point, the point is that too many people that can't ride are buying litter bikes just because they are" litter" bikes not because they can ride them because anyone that knows bikes wouldnt ask anybody shit about why did you buy this bike or that, just where do you ride?

 

[aronhalt]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

Bmann29 said:
Hey Aronhalt Can you clearify this before peeps jump to conclusion?

Sorry to ruin your soggy dream, I love to stir up crap...but it is true. The only redeming factor is that on the 600 it is easier to put the power down and requires less skill.

Ha, the soggy dream was those with a 600 trying to convince themselves that thier bike is as fast as a 1k. One guy above actually claimed that he was pulling on one on his 600 which is total BS. I remember, years ago, I had a 1989 RS Camaro with a 305 in it. After driving it a while, I managed to convince myself that it was a fast car, because I wanted to believe it. My soggy dream was that my camaro was better than the other cars because of ______, _______ and the fact that it was easier to _________. Later on I bought a 2000 Ram Air Trans Am and realized how stupid I was for thinking a 175hp camaro was fast, I quickly realized that it was a total piece of crap.

 

[Ruffnuts]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

I ride alot in Europe since im stationed here in the Netherlands and what was funny is when i ordered my k4 600 from the same dealer in Germany i ordered my k2 600 from he told me i was the only American he has sold a sport bike to that didnt want a 1000 or larger, I laughed since 5 of the 6 Americans i ride with all have 1k or larger bikes it seems every American in Europe must have the biggest bike. Most Euros i ride with all have bikes ranging from 600 to 1100, whats funny is and not to brag I can ride a hell of alot better then any of my friends who own 1k bikes. Anyone familiar with the area called ruhrmond in ghermany will understand why the litre bikes dont always win out against the 600's in that area and thats where i ride alot.

 

[skidmark]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

I get a few people asking me that too, wondering why I only have a 750, and I don't tell them the truth (that it has a 1k motor)... I just say that my 750 is more than enough bike and it'll smoke theirs in any other riding than a straight line... and my bike will even do the straight line due to the motor, but I leave that till I have to prove it, and boy does that supprise people

If I were to get a new bike I'd probably get another 750... I had a little more fun with my bike when it was a 750, it was just that much easier to toss around in the twisties and have fun with, not that I'm complaining though

 

[Bmann29]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

All ok. Off course a 600 cannot pull on a 1000 I did not know that's what the other post was saying. I think maybe the comparision would be to put an experienced rider on a 600 and then put a typical liter bike rider on the 1000 on a track and the 600 will dog the 1000. This is only because the 600 rider knows how to handle a bike in turns and the typical straight line cowboy cannot not keep up. To clarify myself I am referring to the typical liter bike rider as a newbie not imploying to someone that is experienced.

 

[Stealthy03600]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

OK, I must be the guy with "the soggy dream". Let me clarify for Aronhalt.

Of course a 600 is not faster than a 1k! I was giving a clear example of those who cannot and should not be riding a 1K. I never said that my bike was faster, nor did I say that I passed him. I said that I came up on him as fast as my 6 would go and I and realized that the rider of the 1K was getting pulled back from the handlebars and unable to control the power, thus..not even coming close to the potential power.

I have seen a number of 1K bike riders both on and off the track that have a problem with their knees knocking as soon as the 1K grunts the way it wants to be ridden.

 

[hammerdown]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

Even though I ride a Gixxer 1000, I do agree that it is too much bike in most instances. I would lover to have another 600 just to throw around in the twisties. I will say this and it will always be true; A GREAT RIDER ON A 600 WILL SPANK THE PANTS OFF OF AN AVERAGE RIDER ON A 1000 ANY DAY.

Don't you guys think for a second that a 600 or 750 is slow. . that is complete bull. I know that if my 02 had not been stolen, I would never have gone up to the 03 1000. Even then I fought with myself and dealer wondering when the 04 600s or 750s would be coming in. They unfortunately kept changing the dates and finally just told me that they would give me a left over 03 1000 for 9100. That is the only reason why I have a 1000 and no other reason. .

 

[gixer19guy]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

well i just proved to myself that r1's can be beaten, didnt take her above 6k revs due to the initial run in period, but even still the r1 was struggling to keep up on the twistys and so forth, im pritty sure ill give him a good run on a straight when shes got the new oil in too
craig

 

[hammerdown]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

gixer19guy said:
well i just proved to myself that r1's can be beaten, didnt take her above 6k revs due to the initial run in period, but even still the r1 was struggling to keep up on the twistys and so forth, im pritty sure ill give him a good run on a straight when shes got the new oil in too
craig

don't get ahead of yourself, in a straight away you are going to struggle to keep up with a litre bike. Now if you are a great rider then you may be able to destroy a litre bike in the twisties or the track, but if you have an equal rider on the litre bike then you will get eaten up.

 

[peewee]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

Here in Oz we have plenty of the litre cowboys too. Funny thing is that while one of our mags did a test a couple of years ago with a gsxr600 vs 750 vs 1000 test. they got a Adam Fergusson to ride them all. He's an international level rider and I think has come top 10 at the Suzuka 8 hour so the man can ride. Not surprisingly he rode the 1000 the fastest with the 750 and then 600 in that order.

The mag had a staff member, a C grade racer, ride them too and he went fastest on the 750, then the 1000 then the 600. His summary was that given the near identical weight between all 3 what mattered was how much throttle the rider was happy using once the turn had been entered.

For my part, I teach for the Australian version of the Keith Code Californian Superbike School and ride a gsxr600. Not too many guys pass me on anything at track days. Unfortunately race meetings is another thing altogether...

 

[aronhalt]

Re: Why do they ask.... \"Why didn\'t you get the 1K\"

Did anyone see the latest Superstock race? Did you see where Ben Spies with the 750 started on the first row, then got spanked in the first 3 laps by the 1k bikes? I was rooting for him, since I have a 750 also. Wife was cheering for the R1's because the R1 is official hers. After the race, the winners were laughing at him: "What is he thinking?"

I have rode both of these bikes hard now. The 750 is easier to handle, but can't hold a candle to the R1 power wise. I can hold the 750 full throttle in all the gears and maintain control. This weekend, I went full throttle on the R1 in first gear starting at around 4k rpm, with all my weight on the front wheel. It pulled just as hard as the 750 for about 1 second, then it 'bucked' and the front wheel came up and I had to let off again less I visit the emergency room. I agree with what most everyone else is saying, and I have said this before, it doesn't matter how much power you have, if you can't put it to the pavement. However, to remedy this, all you have to do is shift up a gear or two and the power is managable. The R1 is definetly more exciting to ride, but only because it is so dangerous. With time I will learn how to manage the throttle more precisely on the 1k.

 

[Fattrain]

Just tell em\' it gets you layed

Just tell em' it gets you layed & that they can have their honda civic with altezza's if they want 2 & u ain't sayin shit... haha (considering your bike makes the same amount of HP) haha