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Documentary style, on board camera, commentary about wheelies/balance point/setting your bike up, etc.
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SHIFTING(in a wheelie) 101
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Aight well I get my first gear wheelies to redline then it sets down cuz the rev limiter... i figure you can't ride first gear wheelies for a while ... but i was wondering does this hurt your tranny? I donk't clutchless shitf often but used to on dirtbikes.. just a question
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How do I get my 2001 750 to pop a wheelie? Just kidding!
Whasup peeps! I have one more final to take today, then I'll have my A.S. Web Technology. I'm trying really hard to break the habit of shifting at all. Put it up fast, lock those legs, back that ass up a bit, and if it feels a tad too high lean into it, if it starts to drop lean back a bit. Doughy has em on lock, can ride em out for miles, I have to cheat now and then and reward myself with a gear or two. We've also been banging up wheelies on our new pocket rockets, I wielded a wheelie bar onto mine so I wouldn't f up the plastic too bad. I've flipped it several times and sustained no damage to the pocket rocket whatsoever.
Back to the topic at hand, this is indeed a good write-up even if it did come from loveable Hawiia guy. Ya see peeps, he can only give ya limited wheelie advice, cause Hawaai is so short ya run out of road..
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Just funnin ya A56 so relax. When ya gonna find me some work down there in Hawaii so I can move some place warm and get outa crap ohio weather?
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Till then, all you gixxer peeps, keep the faith, keep the gear on, and try to keep the points off the liceanse.
E
http://rocketboyz.tk
ps, you Ohio peeps need to get over here and ride with us, we've found so many new wheelie roads this year, and gained so many members...
Whasup peeps! I have one more final to take today, then I'll have my A.S. Web Technology. I'm trying really hard to break the habit of shifting at all. Put it up fast, lock those legs, back that ass up a bit, and if it feels a tad too high lean into it, if it starts to drop lean back a bit. Doughy has em on lock, can ride em out for miles, I have to cheat now and then and reward myself with a gear or two. We've also been banging up wheelies on our new pocket rockets, I wielded a wheelie bar onto mine so I wouldn't f up the plastic too bad. I've flipped it several times and sustained no damage to the pocket rocket whatsoever.
Back to the topic at hand, this is indeed a good write-up even if it did come from loveable Hawiia guy. Ya see peeps, he can only give ya limited wheelie advice, cause Hawaai is so short ya run out of road..
Till then, all you gixxer peeps, keep the faith, keep the gear on, and try to keep the points off the liceanse.
E
http://rocketboyz.tk
ps, you Ohio peeps need to get over here and ride with us, we've found so many new wheelie roads this year, and gained so many members...
Good to hear from ya again, Eric! I was wondering what became of the "Rocketboyz". You gonna be back on a more regular basis soon?
Back on topic, I still say shifting from 1st to 2nd on the way up (at least on a 1K) is asking for trouble. It snaps up so fast, just from a slight off/on throttle, (I'm talking like 1/2 inch off, 1/2 inch back on at the most) that it's hard to be super consistent. Maybe if you made sure to start at the exact same RPM every time, but I don't. I just get rolling to a speed that feels right, and then do the chop/whack and hoist it on up. Then it takes a bit of throttle modulation to get the wheelie to the right height and settle down. THEN I just snick it right into 2nd. No muss, no fuss. Definitely no need for an extra blip on the throttle beforehand. Just a nice, quick shift and done properly it feels like the bike doesn't move at all. (the wheelie height doesn't change at all is what I mean) Once in 2nd it's all smooth sailing, and I'll just keep it a tad below the BP like that til I see the tach hit 10 grand or so then snick it up to 3rd. Again, no muss, no fuss, no extra blip on the throttle, just a nice quick shift, the bike barely even twitching as it goes into 3rd.
I had a chance to do a few 1st gear wheelies on a bunch of 600s the other day. (CBR600RR, R6, ZX636) And found them much easier to wheelie in 1st than my 1000, just cuz you can play with the throttle so much more. Sure you have to use more throttle & be at a higher RPM to get em up, but once up it's far easier to modulate.
Most impressive was the 636, which I was throttling up (sitting) in 2nd fairly easily. That's right kids, a bone stock 636 (doesn't even have a pipe yet) throttling up in 2nd gear! WHEEEEE!!!!
I hear the new Gixxer Sixxer will throttle up in 2nd too. Haven't tried it myself yet, but I know a guy who just got one that will probably let me try. Damn, 600s are getting STRONG these days!
Back on topic, I still say shifting from 1st to 2nd on the way up (at least on a 1K) is asking for trouble. It snaps up so fast, just from a slight off/on throttle, (I'm talking like 1/2 inch off, 1/2 inch back on at the most) that it's hard to be super consistent. Maybe if you made sure to start at the exact same RPM every time, but I don't. I just get rolling to a speed that feels right, and then do the chop/whack and hoist it on up. Then it takes a bit of throttle modulation to get the wheelie to the right height and settle down. THEN I just snick it right into 2nd. No muss, no fuss. Definitely no need for an extra blip on the throttle beforehand. Just a nice, quick shift and done properly it feels like the bike doesn't move at all. (the wheelie height doesn't change at all is what I mean) Once in 2nd it's all smooth sailing, and I'll just keep it a tad below the BP like that til I see the tach hit 10 grand or so then snick it up to 3rd. Again, no muss, no fuss, no extra blip on the throttle, just a nice quick shift, the bike barely even twitching as it goes into 3rd.
I had a chance to do a few 1st gear wheelies on a bunch of 600s the other day. (CBR600RR, R6, ZX636) And found them much easier to wheelie in 1st than my 1000, just cuz you can play with the throttle so much more. Sure you have to use more throttle & be at a higher RPM to get em up, but once up it's far easier to modulate.
Most impressive was the 636, which I was throttling up (sitting) in 2nd fairly easily. That's right kids, a bone stock 636 (doesn't even have a pipe yet) throttling up in 2nd gear! WHEEEEE!!!!
I hear the new Gixxer Sixxer will throttle up in 2nd too. Haven't tried it myself yet, but I know a guy who just got one that will probably let me try. Damn, 600s are getting STRONG these days!
McDonalds is always hiringericgsxr said:
How do I get my 2001 750 to pop a wheelie? Just kidding!
Whasup peeps! I have one more final to take today, then I'll have my A.S. Web Technology. I'm trying really hard to break the habit of shifting at all. Put it up fast, lock those legs, back that ass up a bit, and if it feels a tad too high lean into it, if it starts to drop lean back a bit. Doughy has em on lock, can ride em out for miles, I have to cheat now and then and reward myself with a gear or two. We've also been banging up wheelies on our new pocket rockets, I wielded a wheelie bar onto mine so I wouldn't f up the plastic too bad. I've flipped it several times and sustained no damage to the pocket rocket whatsoever.
Back to the topic at hand, this is indeed a good write-up even if it did come from loveable Hawiia guy. Ya see peeps, he can only give ya limited wheelie advice, cause Hawaai is so short ya run out of road..Just funnin ya A56 so relax. When ya gonna find me some work down there in Hawaii so I can move some place warm and get outa crap ohio weather?![]()
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Till then, all you gixxer peeps, keep the faith, keep the gear on, and try to keep the points off the liceanse.
E
http://rocketboyz.tk
ps, you Ohio peeps need to get over here and ride with us, we've found so many new wheelie roads this year, and gained so many members...
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GREAT ARTICLE!! I'VE APPLIED THIS TO REAL LIFE AND DO FIND THAT THE QUICK SHIFT TO 2ND DOES STOP THE TWITCHINESS OF 1ST....... GREAT JOB ON THAT.
i already explained this in the write up but its in the standup portion
there is really no significants in shiftings 1st to 2nd becuase you can bring 2nd up at a low speed as well......... 2nd to 3rd is where you gonna love to use it the most..... you can bring up a wheelie in second gear w/ ease at 50mph where as 3rd you may have to go faster..... bring up the wheelie and shift to third and you got yourself riding at 55mph at bp w/ ALOT more throttle to play with.......and with this it gives you alot more control.
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I just went out to try the shifting during a wheelie. I'm getting the hang of it and it seems a little bit easier to hold then just simply clutching it in second gear. I feel safer because you dont have to go as high either. The first few attempts that I did, the bike did go into neutral and went right back down. After a few runs, it gets easier and easier. Hopefully i get better. Nice post BTW.
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hey dude this info has help a ton, if you get the next gear , you are screw!!I'm now going 2nd to 3rd gear smooth as silk thank again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice tips and vids! I'll try getting it up with that quick shift to 2nd tomorrow, maybe that's just the tip I needed to lock it down.
And dude... regarding that second vid's end, you sure got guts pullin' a stoppie that high n' fast!
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And dude... regarding that second vid's end, you sure got guts pullin' a stoppie that high n' fast!
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I have indeed. Well, he's got guts hehe
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