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Possible to crack cylinder head by over tightened plug

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#1 ·
On a 2006 GSXR 1000 is it possible the head could have been cracked by over tightened spark plug by so called mechanic......:cursing:banghead
 
#12 ·
I meant between valve seats, one to another, not to the spark plug hole. I would think anything is possible, probably more so with plugs that have an beveled sealing edge, but most bike engines use plugs with a crush washer for sealing. It would be a hard one to justifiy thats for sure. You're going into "youre word against his" battle.
 
#10 ·
I reckon it's possible, not exactly likely?!?...hang on - i've seen some freakin stupid things come out of dealerships.
If the Dealer over tightened the plugs AND then the motor got hot, then the extra tension from metal expansion around the plug thread could definately transfer to a weak point in the head.
Have seen a similar thing in Alloy cars heads where the head mounting bolts were over tensioned.
Heat does strange things to metal....
Si
 
#14 · (Edited)
I don't know if there are any material or mechanical engineers here but they might care to chime in on this. The spark plug has a M10x1x19 thread. This indicates that almost all of the clamping load is carried by the threads closest to the mounting flange and that the others are generally just along for the ride. This means that the tightened plug provides very little stress to the end where the compustion chamber and valve seats are. In order to stress that end you'd have to tighten the plug so much that the upper threads would start to yeild. With this thread size and length (probably 17 or 18 engaged threads) that would be quite a lot.
 
#16 ·
I don't know if there are any material or mechanical engineers here but they might care to chime in on this. The spark plug has a M10x1x19 thread. This indicates that almost all of the clamping load is carried by the threads closest to the mounting flange and that the others are generally just along for the ride. This means that the tightened plug provides very little stress to the end where the compustion chamber and valve seats are. In order to stress that end you'd have to tighten the plug so much that the upper threads would start to yeild. With this thread size and length (19 engaged threads) that would be quite a lot.
It is possible to do this by over tightening the plug, but unlikely.

With new plugs, the crush washer takes the stress, one really has to be nuts to tighten beyond that and still over-torque the plugs.

Did they perhaps remove and re-install the old plugs?
 
#18 ·
Since the crack runs between valve seats, it is unlikely caused by the plug. Here's a possibility - it could be a weak knitline from the casting process that finally failed. Had a similar thing happen to the front fuel bowl of a Holley 4 barrel on our ski boat. Failed after 15 years, the gas leaked right through the casting due to excessive porosity of the casting that finally formed a crack. Pretty weird, but it happens. If the flow of the aluminum in the head wasn't as it should be, it could be a manufacturing defect. Extremely rare, but possible.