[Paulie88]

Definitely the wrong part. Or like I said before it could have been bent very evenly and slightly when it was stamped out. I'm surprised Brock's even told you to try it.

 

[Paulie88]

^^ screenshot from my Whatsapp chat with a Brocks tech.....😳

 

[Popie]

I didn't even question it....put it in & let it eat. I don't wanna destroy my new clutch pack so will probably just remove it & throw an extra steel in the center of the pack. Main thing was to emlinate the slipper.

My 06 only goes to the drag strip. And I'm not easy on it launching. That mod work great if you get the right spacer. I just use OEM clutches. And get good clutch life out of them.

 

[Popie]

^^ screenshot from my Whatsapp chat with a Brocks tech.....😳

Not seeing the screen shot. Whatever he told you that needs to be flat.

 

[Paulie88]

Not seeing the screen shot. Whatever he told you that needs to be flat.

 

[BillV]

"The first fiber with the larger ID has to mate with that."
The service manual says all drive plates except the innermost have a 111 mm I.D. The outermost has a black marking but I don't know what's different about it. They all have the same 2.8 mm thickness & 13.9 mm claw width.

The TOWARDS pic above looks flat. So if it's conical, it's not by much.

At the risk of complicating things with irrelevant info, I note that Yoshimura sells stiffer and weaker reaction wave washers under pn A-D7210-62S & A-D7210-62R. I assume that their thickness is slightly different. If you're only going to use one washer, one that's stronger or weaker might have some use.

 

[Popie]

That's it!! Brocks calls it a clutch pack spacer. My gixxer is a 2005. Some bikes/years those spacers aren't conical. Mine is. In the instructions that came with it, they don't specify orientation.

Not to argue with anyone but that steel that comes with the brocks mod must be dead flat. Think of it this way. That steel would be the flex plate or fly wheel in a car clutch system. That surface can not be anything but flat. That surface and the pressure plate or "DISC,CLUTCH PRESSURE" as Suzuki calls it sandwiches the clutch pack. Both surfaces need to make full contact with the first and last fiber for the clutch to work properly.

 

[Popie]

I didn't even question it....put it in & let it eat. I don't wanna destroy my new clutch pack so will probably just remove it & throw an extra steel in the center of the pack. Main thing was to emlinate the slipper.

Might be better to put that extra steel where the Brock's steel should be. Then the two washers and the pack.

 

[Paulie88]

Might be better to put that extra steel where the Brock's steel should be. Then the two washers and the pack.

That's what I will be doing👌🏻

 

[Paulie88]

Might be better to put that extra steel where the Brock's steel should be. Then the two washers and the pack.

Popie, any chance you could let me know how your clutch pack is set up? I would like my 05 the same so I don't run into any more issues. Thank-you

 

[Popie]

Popie, any chance you could let me know how your clutch pack is set up? I would like my 05 the same so I don't run into any more issues. Thank-you

Nothing fancy... I use the OEM clutch. That comes with a gasket and springs. 8 of the steels are the same thickness. For the 9th steel the kit gives you a choice of 3 different thicknesses. I use the thinner one of the three. Going to the thicker steels Very Slightly increases your spring pressure on the pack.

 

[BillV]

Suzuki's vague about the alternate thicknesses. I assumed it was to adjust the stack height for accumulated manufacturing tolerances and/or wear.

I've been snooping around and noticed an error in the clutch parts fiche. If you look here, you'll see parts 21, 23, and 24 are the hub nut, hub washer, and hub wave washer. The picture has the hub washer located between the nut and the wave washer. The order should actually have the wave washer in the middle. It's been this way for eighteen years now and traces back to the original release from Japan. They got it right in K7. I also see pics of the 09160-25073 driven gear thrust washer and the 09160-25077 hub washer as blue, indicating that they're hardened. But the 09160-25056 hub thrust washer (22 in the fiche) is not. Go figure.