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#61 ·
PS...I can not criticize your mechanic for what he has/has not done.
I can only share my experience with you and provide you with the best I have to offer.
All of which I have already done.
Holding me accountable for what you deem to be a "poor design" or the fact that this part does not fix your particular problem is both illogical (thank you Mr. Spock) and unreasonable.
Saying the the box I sent you is "not as described" is simply untrue!
It's just the easy way out for you because you still don't know what the problem really is.
If you want to know for SURE, then your only option is to buy a NEW E60 box for 400.00 + and eliminate that variable.
 
#62 ·
PS again...You received each one of the boxes I sent you within 2 days of me shipping it.
It is 7 days since you sent my 1st box and your old box back yet I STILL have not received them.
Seems you are not capable of providing the same level of service of which you demand of others.
And I'm the bad guy here?...
 
#63 ·
THE SRADIATOR said:
It is 7 days since you sent my 1st box and your old box back yet I STILL have not received them.
Seems you are not capable of providing the same level of service of which you demand of others.
And I'm the bad guy here?...
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I think soon this Will need to be moved to something less public.

Is there a tracking # for the items shipped back to Warren? Are you willing to pay for 1 used unit if your old unit is returned?

Let's get the purchase thing straightened out and see if we can get this bike fixed.
 
#64 ·
Knight...I support this site as it has supported me so many times over the years.
This has little to do with $$$ and much to do with integrity!
And it's MY integrity that's being called into question here!
Call me the G.D.C. drama queen, call me late for dinner but don't call me a cheater!
 
#65 ·
THE SRADIATOR said:
Knight...I support this site as it has supported me so many times over the years.
This has little to do with $$$ and much to do with integrity!
And it's MY integrity that's being called into question here!
Call me the G.D.C. drama queen, call me late for dinner but don't call me a cheater!
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I would like to think no one is calling you a Cheater. That is why I would like to see this "Mis-understanding" cleared up so we can all get back to what we're here for. Let me know if I can help 'Moderate' this to a good outcome.

Either of you can contact me directly if you want. I just want the best for everyone. Right down to me calling you up to discuss in person.

Just trying to help.
 
#66 ·
Knight2211 said:
I would like to think no one is calling you a Cheater. That is why I would like to see this "Mis-understanding" cleared up so we can all get back to what we're here for. Let me know if I can help 'Moderate' this to a good outcome.

Either of you can contact me directly if you want. I just want the best for everyone. Right down to me calling you up to discuss in person.

Just trying to help.
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I know you only want the best for the site and it's members and it's good to see you here!
I brought it public as I often do for a myriad of reasons.
To me...filing a "not as described" case, simply to strong arm me when clearly the item is as described to be, Is calling me a "cheater" in 1 form or another.
 
#68 ·
I want the best for the members number 1.
And I understand why you brought it out Warren.
Lets just fix this and put it behind us best we can.

PM me what we need to fix this. That includes you Spud.
 
Discussion starter · #69 ·
THE SRADIATOR said:
PS again...You received each one of the boxes I sent you within 2 days of me shipping it.
It is 7 days since you sent my 1st box and your old box back yet I STILL have not received them.
Seems you are not capable of providing the same level of service of which you demand of others.
And I'm the bad guy here?...
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You sent USA to USA. I have to send Canada to USA. Not only does that incur extra days shipping, but cost me 3 times more than it cost you to ship the same part. I never questioned the cost. I also shipped the return prior to you sending out the new part. Yes, he has a tracking number, and has since the day before he sent my new part.

Knight2211 said:
I think soon this Will need to be moved to something less public.

Is there a tracking # for the items shipped back to Warren? Are you willing to pay for 1 used unit if your old unit is returned?

Let's get the purchase thing straightened out and see if we can get this bike fixed.
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I have tried numerous times to keep this discussion on track, and have asked him to contact me via PM or email (which he has both of), to discuss the rest offline. He has decided that its best for him to try to garner support by continuing to post publicly about this.

Knight2211 said:
I would like to think no one is calling you a Cheater. That is why I would like to see this "Mis-understanding" cleared up so we can all get back to what we're here for. Let me know if I can help 'Moderate' this to a good outcome.

Either of you can contact me directly if you want. I just want the best for everyone. Right down to me calling you up to discuss in person.

Just trying to help.
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I have told him I would happily send his part back to him, in return for my old box and a refund. I am also more than happy to discuss this via a phone call anytime. I will PM you my #.

Basically, I am somewhat concerned that once I have sent his part back, I will never see my old box or money again, leaving me far worse off than I am now.

All I am waiting for is direction from Paypal support. Once they tell me that I am good to ship his part back, I will do that immediately.

Ryan
 
#70 ·
You have said many things including these words in a previous pm:
"Ill test everything else, and if the CDI box still wont function, ill return it to you for a refund, and you can keep my box. "

Now... you say that there is no conclusive way to test a cdi box AND that you want your cdi box back.
All about you, is all that there is here. It's just ALL about you!!!
 
Discussion starter · #72 ·
THE SRADIATOR said:
You have said many things including these words in a previous pm:
"Ill test everything else, and if the CDI box still wont function, ill return it to you for a refund, and you can keep my box. "

Now... you say that there is no conclusive way to test a cdi box AND that you want your cdi box back.
All about you, is all that there is here. It's just ALL about you!!!
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I wondered how long it would take before you started posting PM messages out of context.

If anyone had any questions about your integrity, I think that posting PM's (in any case, but especially out of context), can certainly give them reason to question it now.

I will ask again, please keep this thread on topic and PM or email me with any more off topic stuff.

Ryan
 
#73 ·
Nothing out of context there.
You said it now you are contradicting it, plain & simple.
You said you would "test the box" and send it back if found out to be defective.
Now you are saying there is no conclusive way to test it!
You've also filed a "not as described claim" yet have not done anything to test/establish that it is so.
You said to keep your old box now you are saying you want it back.
It's all about you...all about you!!!
 
#74 ·
Is there a tracking # for the item(s) that were shipped back? If so please supply it to Warren so he can track the return.

You do now have the correct CDI for your bike now, correct? What more are you looking for other than your old box back?
 
#75 ·
He wants to return the CORRECT one, claiming it is "not as described" with paypal because he STILL can't figure out what is wrong with his bike.
He himself previously stated that there is no way to test these boxes yet in the same breath claims the CORRECT box is "not as described"
Am I the only one not getting this?
 
#76 ·
In post #59 Spud says:
"I took my original box to 2 Suzuki dealerships in my city, and both told me there is NO way to test these boxes. Even using the diagnostic tool that Suzuki used to provide to dealerships back in 95 still did not accurately prove that a CDI was functioning correctly or not."

So...since he can not test the box his claim of "not as described" has NO merit as the part # of 32900-17E60 that he now holds is correct.
What is really happening here is:
1-He's afraid he's given away a good box.
2-He's afraid he's purchased a box he did not need.
3-He's filed a "not as described claim" in an effort to get his $$$ back.
4-He has n.f.i. where the problem really is so he figures he'll flip the script and accuse me of not delivering the goods which I clearly already have!
 
Discussion starter · #77 ·
Knight2211 said:
Is there a tracking # for the item(s) that were shipped back? If so please supply it to Warren so he can track the return.

You do now have the correct CDI for your bike now, correct? What more are you looking for other than your old box back?
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Warren has had the tracking number since 3 minutes after I left the post office. I have the emails, and PM's to prove this.

I do have the correct model CDI, but Warren will not return my box so I can rule out the box as the cause, therefore, I can not be sure that the box is 'not as described' - ie. a working unit.

THE SRADIATOR said:
He wants to return the CORRECT one, claiming it is "not as described" with paypal because he STILL can't figure out what is wrong with his bike.
He himself previously stated that there is no way to test these boxes yet in the same breath claims the CORRECT box is "not as described"
Am I the only one not getting this?
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As above, you claimed it was a working box, which I cannot verify for the reasons I have outlined many times over and over. If I had my box (which at least allowed the bike to crank over), I could rule out the fact that the CDI is causing the non start issue which has only become evident since the new box arrived.

I don't know what you are not getting.

THE SRADIATOR said:
In post #59 Spud says:
"I took my original box to 2 Suzuki dealerships in my city, and both told me there is NO way to test these boxes. Even using the diagnostic tool that Suzuki used to provide to dealerships back in 95 still did not accurately prove that a CDI was functioning correctly or not."

So...since he can not test the box his claim of "not as described" has NO merit as the part # of 32900-17E60 that he now holds is correct.
What is really happening here is:
1-He's afraid he's given away a good box.
2-He's afraid he's purchased a box he did not need.
3-He's filed a "not as described claim" in an effort to get his $$$ back.
4-He has n.f.i. where the problem really is so he figures he'll flip the script and accuse me of not delivering the goods which I clearly already have!
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1. Yes, I am. Of course I am. Having a box that I know was not the cause of my non start issue would allow me to rule out the CDI as the cause of the non start.

2.That being said, we are pretty certain that the box is still the cause of the run ability issues, so I would still need the new box to resolve that. If I had found I had bought a box that was working, but was not the cause of my issues, I could just turn around and sell it on.

3. Of course, what other reason would there be to file a claim? It was a 'last resort', as you have chosen to not return my old box at my original request, and have been quite abrasive. Now, how can I be assured that the box you send back is even going to be my original one? This is the reason we have needed to get to this point. As unfortunate as it is, this is the reality of the situation at this point of time.

4. No, I have 'n.f.i', because I can't follow the logical path of diagnostics due to the fact that you would not simply return my old box initially when I asked for you to.

As entertaining as this is, your ineptitude is growing boring.

Ryan
 
Discussion starter · #80 ·
THE SRADIATOR said:
So...have you ordered your NEW cdi box yet?
Unless you have no faith in what Suzuki builds that is the only box that will never need "testing"
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Why would I pay $500 for a new CDI? All I need is my old one back to know if the CDI is operational or not.

Like I said, if my old box still has the same problems as this one, I know it isnt the CDI. FFS, this is really getting beyond belief.

Im really at my ropes end trying to figure out if you really are as feeble minded as you are making out, or if this is all some kind of elaborate level.

Ryan
 
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