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#21 ·
easter bunny said:
Cause I haven't had one yet. No other reason. Variety - so many bikes, so little time (and money).

Honda stopped the RC in 2006 here. Price and maintenance keep me away from Ducati. A 1098 is $2k more than an RSV, same premium for the 1098S over a Factory. I know nothing about the KTM, but I'm guessing it will start somewhere around $20k, assuming you can even get your hands on one.
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I love the RC51's, or VTR SP1/SP2 as they are called here in Europe. Correct me if I'm wrong but I've understood that Honda actually stopped manufacturing them in 2004 and they just sold the rest of the stock in 2005-2006. I drove an SP1 just the other day. It's such an awesome machine! It doesn't have shit loads of power but it makes that up in chassis and character.

And I like the idea behind the RC8 but I don't like the actual bike. :wtf

I mean the idea of putting a big a$$ V-twin into an aggressively designed chassis. Unfortunately KTM didn't really pull it through. I think it's just butt ugly. Too much in the front, too little in the back. I'm sure it's a blast on the track if you're able to loose some weight. I think the amount of an medium sized planet will do... But that's just my opinion.
 
#22 ·
I found a 2006 SP2 with less than 1500 miles on it. Bone stock except for aftermarket pipes, virtually unridden in showroom condition. Guy only wanted $8500 for it. I'm just not ready to give up the kwak yet and I don't have the extra money to buy it outright.

You have any info on the RC8? I can't even find pricing on them.
 
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Pixelator said:
Im not sure I understand where your coming from and I ask this with all due respect, Im not trying to be a smart ass..

Are you wanting a bike to ride and enjoy or a bike to park at Starbucks or do bike nights with and be different?

I dont understand why you would spend that much money on a bike just for the "wow" I rarely see them on the streets mentality. :dunno


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Don't worry i don't think you are trying to be a smart ass. By me saying that i would choose the Aprilia over everything else just cause i don't see it on the street doesn't mean i am trying to be a poser of some sort. I actually based my choice on the fact that A: it is out of the normal Suzuki/kawa/honda/yamaha sights that i see on a daily basis. B: The V engine claims to be more torque with more usable power. So in essence i based a decision off of looks, engine type/power displacement, and a brand that i hardly ever see (more of a bonus i suppose) on the road. I don't for see anything wrong with being different. I've ridden the suzuki Liter and honda liter bikes and am impressed with the power delivery, but i have yet to see the difference in the I4 in comparison to the V-Twin. If my choices were that of the TL1kR, the Ducatis, and the Aprilia, I would go with the Aprilia. However actually owning a brand new is out of the question, so if the time comes when i am ready to purchase, going used would be a better option for me.:cheers
 
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Question for those who have ridden a V-twin and I4. What is your take on the difference of the two engines when being ridden on the street and on the track? Pro's and con's mainly for both. I mentioned before that because of the V-twin torque i mentioned that this is usable power on the streets because it's not like i am busting high speeds on the streets however being able to pull the bike quicker would mean that you are utilizing more of the power down low more often correct?
 
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easter bunny said:
I found a 2006 SP2 with less than 1500 miles on it. Bone stock except for aftermarket pipes, virtually unridden in showroom condition. Guy only wanted $8500 for it. I'm just not ready to give up the kwak yet and I don't have the extra money to buy it outright.

You have any info on the RC8? I can't even find pricing on them.
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That SP2 deal sounds pretty good to me. I'd love to have one of those babies. :drool

I checked the KTM US website and it looks like that they don't sell the RC8 in the US. I wonder why... :scratch

In Europe they cost pretty much the same as 1098. You could go to www.ktm.com and to the UK site to get some technical data on it.
 
#26 ·
nixgix600 said:
Question for those who have ridden a V-twin and I4. What is your take on the difference of the two engines when being ridden on the street and on the track? Pro's and con's mainly for both. I mentioned before that because of the V-twin torque i mentioned that this is usable power on the streets because it's not like i am busting high speeds on the streets however being able to pull the bike quicker would mean that you are utilizing more of the power down low more often correct?
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I4 and V-twins have very different engine characteristics. Especially modern high tuned I4's usually have rather poor low end because the manufacturers want to obtain high max power. V-twins in the other hand pull like a train all the way from the low rev's and there's no peak in the power output. You don't really feel the acceleration on a V-twin because the power output is so linear. For that reason they are good in street riding because you don't have to rev' the engine and there's always torque and power no matter what gear are you on. On the track I'd say the biggest advantage over an I4 is the throttle controllability. It's easier to keep good corner speeds when there's power available from the low rev's, and it's easier to control the throttle when there's no peak in the power output.

The cons are that V-twin bikes lack in speed because high speeds usually require high rev's and it's very expensive to make a V-twin rev' high because for one reason, the piston velocity becomes too high for normal materials and therefore special materials are required. They're also quite heavy compared to I4 bikes. V-twin bikes are good for beginners on the track but making an competitive race bike out of one is really expensive.

These are things that I have noticed and hopefully someone corrects me if I was wrong.
 
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twatster said:
I4 and V-twins have very different engine characteristics. Especially modern high tuned I4's usually have rather poor low end because the manufacturers want to obtain high max power. V-twins in the other hand pull like a train all the way from the low rev's and there's no peak in the power output. You don't really feel the acceleration on a V-twin because the power output is so linear. For that reason they are good in street riding because you don't have to rev' the engine and there's always torque and power no matter what gear are you on. On the track I'd say the biggest advantage over an I4 is the throttle controllability. It's easier to keep good corner speeds when there's power available from the low rev's, and it's easier to control the throttle when there's no peak in the power output.

The cons are that V-twin bikes lack in speed because high speeds usually require high rev's and it's very expensive to make a V-twin rev' high because for one reason, the piston velocity becomes too high for normal materials and therefore special materials are required. They're also quite heavy compared to I4 bikes. V-twin bikes are good for beginners on the track but making an competitive race bike out of one is really expensive.

These are things that I have noticed and hopefully someone corrects me if I was wrong.
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I would't say the Aprilia is short on topspeed. The bike does 280 Km/h = 174 mph in real, and I mean real. Thats not bad.:burnout
 
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#28 ·
the rsv1000 is my favorite bike

if i was dumb i would have went from a aprilia RS125 to a RSV1000 but im smart so i got a gsxr 600, the day my expirence is high enough i will get a factory rsv.

seriously its a bike to drool over. it is a smooth beast.

as for feeling like a 600, i went on the back of a 05 factory to 227KM and without using more then 60 percent thorttle it put my gixxer to shame
 
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#30 ·
nixgix600 said:
With the many choices of liter bikes how come i rarely ever hear anything about the Aprilia RSV1000? Has anyone heard of good things come from this brand? Although i am a Suzuki kind of guy by heart i am always open to other makes and models. Plus the Suzuki is the only other bike i can ride comfortably even being only 5'4" -5'5" with a short inseam. I have noticed the new RSV is the same seat height as the Suzuki being 31.9, the only other choice after my 600 is the 848 Ducati which is at 32.6 iirc. But the Aprilia would still be my first choice only because i rarely see them on the streets.

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It's old and outdated that's why. In a recent Motorcyclist mag I think it was, they compared it to the that new Buell 1125 and it finished behind it in most categories. I mean I definately like the bike, but its heavy, overpriced and way underpowered compared to modern literbikes.
 
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SPL170db said:
It's old and outdated that's why. In a recent Motorcyclist mag I think it was, they compared it to the that new Buell 1125 and it finished behind it in most categories. I mean I definately like the bike, but its heavy, overpriced and way underpowered compared to modern literbikes.
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That's all very true but for me the max power output isn't everything when it comes to street bikes. I don't care if it takes the bike 3.1secs instead of 2.9secs to get 0-60. You'll never know the difference. It's more about how much kick I can get out of it and how much I like to ride it. It looks awesome and the sound it makes... :punk
 
#32 ·
SPL170db said:
It's old and outdated that's why. In a recent Motorcyclist mag I think it was, they compared it to the that new Buell 1125 and it finished behind it in most categories. I mean I definately like the bike, but its heavy, overpriced and way underpowered compared to modern literbikes.
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Overpriced? . hmm "ok" go and buy a Gixxer with Öhlins, brembo , carbon, oz wheels then.

Underpowered only if you want pull wheelies on third gear, on the street it have no problem with zx10r, gixxer , r1. Maybe if you drive over 270km/h+ but how mnay times are you doing that?, a bird could kill you.

Heavy... It dont feel more heavy that a zx10r.

But one thing thats are bad it have not been updated much last years... 2004-2008 is almost same bikes. And i dint think it will get 1200cc or something before the aprilia V4 is out. and that bike will be the bike to get if the price is right :yumyum
 
#34 ·
easter bunny said:
Cause I haven't had one yet. No other reason. Variety - so many bikes, so little time (and money).

Honda stopped the RC in 2006 here. Price and maintenance keep me away from Ducati. A 1098 is $2k more than an RSV, same premium for the 1098S over a Factory. I know nothing about the KTM, but I'm guessing it will start somewhere around $20k, assuming you can even get your hands on one.
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Fair comment mate, i want to go the same route. next bike after my gsxr600 is a 750 or 1lt then i want to try something more exotic

They had the sp2 in the UK showrooms in 2006, i love the seating possition.
 
#36 ·
SPL170db said:
It's old and outdated that's why. In a recent Motorcyclist mag I think it was, they compared it to the that new Buell 1125 and it finished behind it in most categories. I mean I definately like the bike, but its heavy, overpriced and way underpowered compared to modern literbikes.
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You think it was or you know, dumbshit. 2006 RSV won the master bike shoot out. Last month's Superbike Mag had the RSV, 1098 and RC8, The RC8 was last. The Buell has yet to finish any test.
 
#37 ·
Campo said:
Mate I'm seriously thinking about getting another bike, if I do, I'm dead set on the RSV1000R. After riding an SP-1, I love the V-Twins and that'd have to be the way to go for me.
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yeh as somone mentioned i forgot the aprilia V4 or somthing is coming 2009 to replace to RSV. its basicly the RSV with a shitload of improvements.
 
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#38 ·
foskamink said:
yeh as somone mentioned i forgot the aprilia V4 or somthing is coming 2009 to replace to RSV. its basicly the RSV with a shitload of improvements.
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The Aprilia V4 will not replace the Aprilia V60 V-Twin, And the V4 is not a improved RSV its a brand new bike... The engine is made by aprilia and not rotax anymore and is a V4 and not a V2 and will make about 200hp+

Some links about V4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfuGlsQI6QI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSh_tOSdPtc&NR=1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_7OoRGtyJ28&NR=1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f0MpU88qdNw&NR=1

http://www.alex66.com/typo3/index.php?id=10&L=3

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#39 ·
TLRDUDE said:
You think it was or you know, dumbshit. 2006 RSV won the master bike shoot out. Last month's Superbike Mag had the RSV, 1098 and RC8, The RC8 was last. The Buell has yet to finish any test.
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I know.....dumbshit

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/f....com/features/122_0807_2008_buell_1125r_versus_2008_aprilia_rsv1000r/index.html

It went a full second a lap slower than the Buell (not that I like the Buell) at Buttonwillow, and in that Masterbike shootout went a full second a lap slower than the ZX-10R, and if you are trying to compare apples to apples both tests said that the bike is decidedly better on the track than the street, so what does that tell you.

And looking at the numbers

HP - 125 hp (30 or so hp down from a typical Jap I4 1000, about the same as a GSXR-750)
torque - 67 ft/lbs (10-15 down here)
weight (wet/dry) - 477/448 (it weighs as much dry as most Jap bikes weigh wet)
price - MSRP $17,999 (costs about $6500 more than a GSXR-1000)

just saying..........
 
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lam-kaka said:
Overpriced? . hmm "ok" go and buy a Gixxer with Öhlins, brembo , carbon, oz wheels then.

Underpowered only if you want pull wheelies on third gear, on the street it have no problem with zx10r, gixxer , r1. Maybe if you drive over 270km/h+ but how mnay times are you doing that?, a bird could kill you.

Heavy... It dont feel more heavy that a zx10r.

But one thing thats are bad it have not been updated much last years... 2004-2008 is almost same bikes. And i dint think it will get 1200cc or something before the aprilia V4 is out. and that bike will be the bike to get if the price is right :yumyum
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The RSV1000R Factory is $17,999, that's about $6500 more than a new GSXR-1000, so throw a set of Ohlins forks ($2000), Ohlins shock ($1500), Brembo master cylinder and forged monoblock calipers ($1250).....leaving you another $1750 to throw at whatever you please (full system and custom map perhaps). The OZ rims and carbon fiber bits still don't have the bike weighing less than a GSXR (about 30-40 lbs heavier wet).

I'm interested to see what the new Aprilia RSV4 will bring to the table, but I'm pretty sure cost effectiveness won't be one of them.
 
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