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Did anybody have a picture or photo of needle jet o-8 of 38mm carburetors?
I have a GSXR 750 , year 1993, with BST38ss carburetors, carb. ID# 17E232(writted on the carb body). Trouble with Suzuki daeler- i have order a needle jets because they was worn, but Suzuki dealer sends me another(smaler, E-3)
They told me that catalog that they have shows E-3 needle jets for gsxr750, 93 year. But in my carburetor needle jets is longer(~1cm longer than E-3)and marked o-8!
Please help me with photo or another info. Maybe I have another than stock carburetors on my bike?Maybe another needle jet(another year of gsxr) fits on my?
 
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Does not look like stock GSXR to me:
BST38SS came either in 17E0 , or 17E1 only, to my knowledge...

Have you taken an emulsion tube out? if so, you should have a number stamped : Mine are 17E0 canadian specs mikunis:
647 (thensquare within a sqare mikuni sign) 0-8 , and measure 48.40mm long (1.906 in.)

US spec suzuki number emulsion tube for 38ss 17E1 = 09494-00787

You could also try contact Mark at factory pro, he could probably help you out, & you could get some of his emulsion tubes...
 
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I need emulsion tubes(needle jets) for mikuni carbs.
http://www.zone.ee/motoizvrat/emulsion1.jpg
http://www.zone.ee/motoizvrat/emulsion2.jpg

On the carb body is writed: 17E2
k232
Bike- GSXR 750, year 1993, vin: GR7BB-104961, engine#R722-101397

I don't know my bike specificatsion, I am from Estonia(in East Europe)
This bike was get to Estonia from Germany in 2002 year.

I was watching all components of my carbs:

Main jet: 1,4cylinder(#112.5) 2,3cylider(#115)
Main Air Jet: 0.5
Jet Needle: 6ZD16 , (E-clip on the 3rd)
Needle Jet(see pictures): 647(square in square)0-8
Throtle valve: #135
Pilot Jet: #35
Pilot Air Jet:#1.3
Valve seat: 2.5

My Needle jets are worn, i want buy a new ones(4)
 
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How badly worn are your emulsion tubes?

Because I have a set for you if you need them... they have about 8-10k km on them...

Just like the ones you need...

Hopefully I can help you , even if you are in Estonia...

Oh By the way, Welcome to GDC...And the W/C addiction...lol...
 
#10 ·
These emulsion tubes are for almost all NON-USA countries;
Czech, poland, etc... Even Western europeen too...
Check with another Suzuki dealer perhaps, Because you are right, not the dealer...
And the part number I gave you is a Suzuki part # that I bought a few months ago... it IS a good number ... BUt this one is the USA spec emulsion tube, unlike the ones we have...
look:
 
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flaco said:
the shorter emulsion tubes are for 36mm carbs. thats your dealer screwup.

The US part number will work as well, mikuni 0-8 tube is the same no matter US/euro: 09494-00787

see:
http://www.ronayers.com/browseparts.cfm?searchstring=09494-00787
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Sorry to say , but I do know they are not the same:
USA emulsion tubes have gas output up & downstream (180 degrees)

But non USA emulsion tubes have up downstream, and side stream output, and 4 more output holes than USA spec (holes every 90 degrees)

I have gotten Mark at Factory pro recommend that I change from NON-USA tubes to USA tubes, as their stage 3 kits were based on that USA set up...

So I had to order & drive down to Plattsburgh & get US specs emulsion tubes...

So Rock, Want my NON-US specs ?
 
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the suzuki part associated with a specific part number is the same no matter where you are. youre not arguing this are you?

now the US and CND spec carbs are/may be different, if so they will use different parts (and different p/n's for sure), but the mikuni emulsion tube o-8 should be the same either US or CND.

Am I right youre saying you have mikuni needles with the same markings (o-8 right?) and different holes on them? Do you have pics of them?
 
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flaco said:
the suzuki part associated with a specific part number is the same no matter where you are. youre not arguing this are you?

now the US and CND spec carbs are/may be different, if so they will use different parts (and different p/n's for sure), but the mikuni emulsion tube o-8 should be the same either US or CND.

Am I right youre saying you have mikuni needles with the same markings (o-8 right?) and different holes on them? Do you have pics of them?
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I know that Suzuki part numbers are the same all over the world...

If I am not mistaking, 38mm are 17E1 series in USA, and 17E0 for non-USA models...

When I bought my Factory pro stage 3 jet kit, the spec sheets clearly states that the emulsion tubes should be changed to USA specs...

The number above on the pic, is USA spec emulsion tubes...
For NON-USA spec emulsion tube, I do not have the number, as only USA model microfiche are commonly found...

My stock Candian emulsion tubes are different than the US ones... The USA models are in my carb, but as stated on an above post, they are both different on the radial holes layout... I can assure you of this...
Fred
 
#18 ·
fredybender said:
My stock Candian emulsion tubes are different than the US ones... The USA models are in my carb, but as stated on an above post, they are both different on the radial holes layout... I can assure you of this...
Fred
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Aha, got it! So far we know USA are o-8. So whats the mikuni code stamped on your CND tubes?
 
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flaco said:
Aha, got it! So far we know USA are o-8. So whats the mikuni code stamped on your CND tubes?
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as far as i know.. all 38´s use 0-8 tubes.. the only ones that dont use those are US 36´s (17e4/USA) that use P-1 tubes, 17E3 (E-18/Switzerland) and 17E5 E-39/Austria) that use P-3 tubes.

my bike was brought directly from Japan to Argentina, it has 38´s 17E0 carbs, 0-8 647 tubes.. maybe there are other kind of 0-8´s that aren´t 647´s? :scratch not sure of that...

anyway, i have the american and european microfiche, and the both have the same part number for emulsion tubes, but the needles are different.. USA 38s use 6ZDY18 and most euro 38´s use 6ZD16.. The part number for the 6ZD16 needles (that are on euro microfiches) doesnt work on ronayers, bikbandit etc.etc.


TO FREDYBENDER: 38s came in:

17E0 (models E01/worldwide, E-02england/, E-21/belgium, E-25/netherland, E-28/Canada , E-34/italy, E-53/spain)
17E2 (model E-22) germany
17E6 (model E-04) France
17E9 (model E-24) Australia
17E7 (model E-17)Sweden
17EA0 (model E-15/Finland , E-16/Norway)
 
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My canadian tubes are stamped 647 o8, but are phisycally different when it comes to hole spacing, from the SUZUKI number in the pic above...

Do not know what those are stamped, but they could be 647 o8....
They re in my carbs, and don t feel like taking them out, just to look...lol...

During the course of the years, could they have changed radial holes layout, and kept same P/N ???

Like I wrote on some above posts, the ones I have gotten from USA, with
the P/N 09494-00787 have holes only at 180 degrees from each other, and the ones that were taken out of my CDN carbs , which are stamped 647 o8, have radial holes at every 90 degrees, and they have more holes (4) then the ones I brought back from the USA....??????

Fred
 
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