[russgsxr]

Anyone living in Southern California knows it's exactly the same here. Someone isn't going to be sitting on your bike by themselves examining the ignition without some ill intent. So what if he didn't notice the lock....

^^^ Exactly, some of these guys make assumptions just to play "devil's advocate", however unless you are there at the time it is easy to say "what if he was fantasizing/ a retard, you just shattered someones dreams" Boo-Effing-Hoo. :hammer

 

[russgsxr]

I ride in FL and bikes from Jacksonville get stolen by the same theft rings that are in Orlando, Daytona, Tampa, and Miami. I also know people who have had their bikes stolen and they're all dumbasses like you and your buddies that leave their bikes unattended for long periods of time in front of their apartments and while they're at the movies and in the mall.

If you don't want your shit taken or fucked with then don't let it out of your sight and keep it in a locked garage for storage. Yes it sucks to have to worry about thieves but they aren't going to stop being thieves so you have to do everything possible to minimize the risk of theft. If that means not leaving your bike in front of a theater then maybe you should just take your car next time.

Next time you hit somebody in the face with a helmet (if you actually did it this time) for sitting on your bike I hope you go to jail.

^^^ Wow!! I have read some p*ssy-$ssed posts before, but this takes the cake. So it is the victims fault if their machine gets stolen(admittedly some peoples bikes are stolen due to neglecting a few basic security measures)? I wonder what you would really do if you caught someone sitting on your bike? Would you calmly lecture the individual on their wicked ways or, would you take action? Would you throw him your wallet, and house keys as well. :dissapointed

 

[russgsxr]

Next time you hit somebody in the face with a helmet (if you actually did it this time) for sitting on your bike I hope you go to jail.

^^^:lol "I hope you go to jail, you big meanie"- insert whiny-sissy voice.

You cannot put me in the same category as the victims because my bike has not been stolen.:cheers

 

[Sun Burn]

^^^ Wow!! I have read some p*ssy-$ssed posts before, but this takes the cake. So it is the victims fault if their machine gets stolen(admittedly some peoples bikes are stolen due to neglecting a few basic security measures)? I wonder what you would really do if you caught someone sitting on your bike? Would you calmly lecture the individual on their wicked ways or, would you take action? Would you throw him your wallet, and house keys as well. :dissapointed

With the amount of bike thefts that there are I do think that it's the victims fault in some cases. If you leave your bike unattended for long periods of time then you're taking a known risk.

I won't ever catch anyone sitting on my bike b/c if it isn't locked in my garage it doesn't leave my sight. Either way we both know you handled the situation wrong. That's why you've never answered any of the questions about it being locked to a post. You've never answered wether or not he had a tool, you never answered if he was actually touching the ignition and you stated that you had to leave the scene and come back in a different vehicle before the person you assaulted called the police.

 

[CASINO]

I ride in FL and bikes from Jacksonville get stolen by the same theft rings that are in Orlando, Daytona, Tampa, and Miami. I also know people who have had their bikes stolen and they're all dumbasses like you and your buddies that leave their bikes unattended for long periods of time in front of their apartments and while they're at the movies and in the mall.

Thats just foolishness Burn... Its my bike and nobody has the right to sit on it. And if I catch them sitting on it and misinterpret their intentions... guess what??? They deserve to get smashed in the face. Its that simple.

If some stranger grabbed your girlfriend/wifes' ass would you be that understanding and try to interpret their intentions?

If someone hopped in the drivers seat of your convertible would you be that understanding?

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[CASINO]

With the amount of bike thefts that there are I do think that it's the victims fault in some cases. If you leave your bike unattended for long periods of time then you're taking a known risk.

I won't ever catch anyone sitting on my bike b/c if it isn't locked in my garage it doesn't leave my sight. Either way we both know you handled the situation wrong. That's why you've never answered any of the questions about it being locked to a post. You've never answered wether or not he had a tool, you never answered if he was actually touching the ignition and you stated that you had to leave the scene and come back in a different vehicle before the person you assaulted called the police.

I'm throwing the horeshit flag here again. It is your possession, and no one has the right to tamper with it. Period. You are well within your right to bash the hell out of the guy you catch fucking with it. Its a really simple concept.

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[Sun Burn]

I disagree Casino. The wife thing is comparing apples to oranges b/c a wife is not a possesion and I can't comment on the convertible b/c those are gay and I wouldn't drive one. :lol

I guess I'm in the minority on this topic so I won't continue trying to get my views across.

 

[diamondgeezer]

I disagree Casino. The wife thing is comparing apples to oranges b/c a wife is not a possesion and I can't comment on the convertible b/c those are gay and I wouldn't drive one. :lol

I guess I'm in the minority on this topic so I won't continue trying to get my views across.

I think you're right regarding him smashing the person on his bike in the face with his helmet. I can't condone that - neither can the OP as he fled and changed vehicles (pretty comical).

I don't think you're right about leaving the bike unattended. I grew up in Europe where the ratio of bikes to roads is higher and bike crime is MUCH higher. Over there, many leave their bikes unattended as it's a mode of daily transportation not just recreational or the occasional commuter. You need a good alarm and chain and that's it. It makes it more difficult than a car to steal in daylight without being noticed.

In my view, never leaving a bike unattended is overly cautious and you are letting your possession own you. Get insurance, a chain and a pager alarm and forget about it.

My cars are worth ten times more than my bikes and I don't have sleepless nights about leaving one or two of them outside due to lack of room in the garage.

It's never the victims 'fault'. I'll agree that some people could take more cautionary measures, but it's never their fault that someone took it upon themselves to target their bike and screw with it.

 

[Jasper007]

I disagree Casino. The wife thing is comparing apples to oranges b/c a wife is not a possesion and I can't comment on the convertible b/c those are gay and I wouldn't drive one. :lol

I guess I'm in the minority on this topic so I won't continue trying to get my views across.

I am with you on this Sun:cheers

Russ, I think you may have been in the Navy?

I think they taught you squids how to act and handle situations much better then planting your helmet in someones Skullhmy

If you knew for sure he was stealing your bike, then I would have no problem doing that myself:cheers

Semper Fi

 

[AndrewM]

You are a retard, plain and simple. First of all not everyone has the means to lock their bike away in Fort Knox. And just because someone DOES leave their shit out doesnt excuse the lowlife that was tampering with it. If I left my car in a parking lot with the keys in the ignition, and if someone stole it, its still theft. Dont try to place the blame on the owner.

Nice first posthmy

I'm with SunBurn(you're not alone on this one)...... all these young kids(and older ones) riding these brand new supersport bikes should have the common sense to know they're highly sought after by thieves and if you leave it unattended outside for more than a few minutes you can't be surprised when you come back and it's gone. It takes all of 20-30 seconds and 2-3 guys at most to throw it in a van/truck and be gone.

Yes I know everyone doesn't have the means to lock up their shit in a secure area, I feel for ya I do, but you shoulda taken that into consideration when you bought a brand new shiny bike.

Placing blame on the owner? Well, I'll just say you're a little naive if you think your bike if safe sitting out unattended.

 

[Sun Burn]

You are a retard, plain and simple. First of all not everyone has the means to lock their bike away in Fort Knox. And just because someone DOES leave their shit out doesnt excuse the lowlife that was tampering with it. If I left my car in a parking lot with the keys in the ignition, and if someone stole it, its still theft. Dont try to place the blame on the owner.

Second, what the fuck would you have done you girl? Ask him politely if he may please step off you bike? or perhaps you would tell him that he should get off the bike at his convenience? No, any one who does that deserves to die, period. You do what is most effective right from the get go. Ask him politely to get off and then what do you do when he draws a gun and demands you to unlock the chain and hand over the key? Fucking ****.

Lastly, EVEN IF HE WASNT TRYING TO STEAL THE BIKE, because that is NOT relevant, he STILL deserved what he got. What if he booted the bike while trying to get on/off it and chipped/scratched up the paint? is that ok with you? What if when you asked him to get off (politely of course) he got off in and pushed it over before running away. WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH LOWLIVES YOU MUST TREAT THEM AS SUCH. No NORMAL person would sit on someone elses property without permision, PERIOD. And guess what, to the guy that said something about what if they were retarded, My question to you is WHAT IF THEY WERE? WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? Guess what, if they WERE retarded then their leash is too long/they have no one looking after them/ they should be put to death. If you dont have the capacity for simple reasoning then why should you be tolerated to manhandle MY property? I dont fucking think so, some of you people are right on the money, but a lot of you are fucking girls. While your out there being gay trying to tear this guy down for doing whats right why dont you go support Hillary Clinton for president while your at it, ****.

Nice first post douchebag. Welcome to the site. :flipoff

 

[AndrewM]

Well guess what? I NEVER said I think a bike or ANYTHING else is safe sitting unattended. However, IN any situation, EVEN if he left the keys in it, it is still theft. You people are acting like becuse its a bike, people have free reign to sit on it/take pictures of themselves sitting on it, etc. Sitting on someone bike without permission is no different than opening a door to someones car anmd sitting in it. It is no different than walking into someones house and taking a dump in their toilet. Dont shroud the issue with this nonsence "well he was just sitting on it, ytou dont have any proof he was trying to steal it" IRRELEVANT. If you walked into your house and someone was sitting on your sofa watching tv, somehow I doubt you you would have the same view. "well he looked fairly harmeless so I just asked him to leave as soon as his show ended" please people, please. The statement that was made is that he thinks the guy that defended his property should be jailed for knocking a lowlife off of it. Give me a break. Yea lets jail the innocent while some dirtbag violates peoples property.

sleep
You need to work on your argument/rebuttal skillz, you're putting me to sleep over here with your rambling
You mean if someone takes something that doesn't belong to them it's called a theft?hmy
From what I gather that dude didn't deserve what will probably amount to lifelong scars over what he did. Wrong? Hell yeah, but not deserving of a couple blows to the dome from a helmet.
You're trying to relate this situation to walking into an unlocked house and taking a dump/sitting on their couch and/or opening an unlocked car and sitting in it?:wacko:lol

"well he was just sitting on it, ytou dont have any proof he was trying to steal it" IRRELEVANT

Sorry buddy that IS relevant. One's malicious, the other's not

 

[diamondgeezer]

..should have the common sense to know they're highly sought after by thieves and if you leave it unattended outside for more than a few minutes you can't be surprised when you come back and it's gone.

shoulda taken that into consideration when you bought a brand new shiny bike.

Placing blame on the owner? Well, I'll just say you're a little naive if you think your bike if safe sitting out unattended.

Strongly disagree with this perspective.

An owner wanting to leave his "protected" vehicle outside isn't naive. You're a little ignorant for saying so. All over the world people leave their bikes out on bustling city streets for hours on end. They are not all naive. I've lived in a few countries and young American riders/owners in comparison to say UK or French riders seem to be owned by their toys, not the other way round (I'm not slagging anyone off - just an observation). Where the worry comes from I'm unsure as bike thefts in America are much lower than other nations.

In order to make a decision based on the consideration you recommend when purchasing a motorcycle then you would have to have a garage, never take it to work or the mall or the cinema or the beach or the races or the gym or a restaurant, or a weekend away with your girl or basically anywhere the bike will be out of sight for more than a few minutes. If you do, firstly you will not be able to relax due to huge amounts of paranoia and secondly you shouldn't be surprised to see it missing when you return. This in turn means you SHOULD be surprised if it's still there! Those are incredible statements! However that's not a realistic view, a little silly and most importantly it's no fun.

What would be the point of owning it other than to trailer it up to the race track? Which is fine, but we are talking about street riding. Maybe to go tear up the canyons on a Sunday and drag a little knee with your buddies and mix it up a little bit? May break the speed limit a little and have some fun but no harm no foul - that's cool and I understand completely and do the same occasionally but its far more stupid and dangerous than leaving your motorcycle outside insured and alarmed. The naivety you speak of in your opinion is a little obscure and out of perspective with regards to owning motorcycle.

What would you do if you went touring?

You'll outgrow 'worrying' about your bike. The first few years of riding I was the same until I started accumulating more bikes and realized there is more to life than worrying about a lump of plastic and metal especially when you pay all of that hard earned money to insure your investment in case some idiot nabs it.

I'm a classic car and motorcycle man and I have some relics that are sheer priceless - I don't worry about them either, I have fun with them and go wherever I please.

One last point - some of the track only guys on here have had the same view as you as far as leaving a bike un-attended outside which is ironic as surely you bike is safer outside starbucks than it is doing 130 knee banging off the ground round your favorite track! I must have been through 300K (rough guess, probably a lot more) in bikes and parts at tracks over the years from overly thrashing and nasty high sides.

I've never once had a bike stolen though. Get an alarm, get insured and relax. Enjoy it.

 

[Sun Burn]

Nice rebuttal you nancy. Ive been reading this site for a while now, just because I dont post every assinine thought that crosses through my head like you appear to do doesnt make me less of a person than you. And for the record if it wasnt for your idiocy I probably never would have posted here period.

If you've been lurking here then you should be aware that most of our members have respect for each other and generally don't resort to name calling. That's because most of us are intelligent enough to communicate our thoughts and opinions on a topic without having to resort to that level. Grow up and learn how to express yourself like an adult. Yes I called you a douchebag but you went there first :lol

 

[Sun Burn]

And to that fool sunburn, I dont care about your petty online community I have no desire to become part of it, thanks. Last thing I care about is accumulating 15k meaningless posts just so I can get "respect"

Post count has nothing to do with respecting the person on the other side of the keyborad and you aren't going to make any friends by coming onto a site and talking trash to all the members. If you don't like it here then leave and quit wasting your time by posting.

 

[nitrous36]

Has this thread become political?

 

[1qwik6]

Bathory = grandevil?

 

[CASINO]

Bathory = grandevil?

LMAO

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[AndrewM]

Please, explain to me the difference you see. A motorcycle, car, house, etc are all property. Are you trying to imply because the bike is in open air and does not have a door that it is not being violated by having someone climb onto it without permission? It is NO DIFFERENT than walking into someones house uninvited PERIOD

Yeah, it's OK for people to go around sitting on other people's bikes:rolleyes

It's different because it's in the open and doesn't have doors. Not different in the sense it's any less wrong to mess with it, different in the sense that lots of men, women, and especially children/young adults walk by checking it out, wondering what's it's like to sit on one... and can climb right on if they want to, no locks or doors to tell them NO. Common sense should tell them no, but there seems to be a lack of that these days

 

[1qwik6]

Common sense should tell them no, but there seems to be a lack of that these days

And sadly common sense cannot be taught, either ya got it or ya don't.