you have to ease off on an ex 500 rolling up to a turn if you want to keep it on the road depending on how fast your approaching it.. so the size of the bike makes no difference in that aspect.. its just that the 1k has the ability to get you from corner to corner a lot faster so it may require more braking depending on how your riding... but what you do need to be careful about is getting on the throttle on your corner exits. because the 1k has so much hp/torque it has the ability to light that rear tire up far more easily than a smaller bike. with that said, the 750 offers so much blistering speed that you can hang with just about anyone on a 1k if you know what your doing. and many people have actually set better lap times on a 750 than they have on a 1k.. its lighter so it handles slightly better...

 

bmfgsxr said:
you have to ease off on an ex 500 rolling up to a turn if you want to keep it on the road depending on how fast your approaching it.. so the size of the bike makes no difference in that aspect.. its just that the 1k has the ability to get you from corner to corner a lot faster so it may require more braking depending on how your riding... but what you do need to be careful about is getting on the throttle on your corner exits. because the 1k has so much hp/torque it has the ability to light that rear tire up far more easily than a smaller bike. with that said, the 750 offers so much blistering speed that you can hang with just about anyone on a 1k if you know what your doing. and many people have actually set better lap times on a 750 than they have on a 1k.. its lighter so it handles slightly better...

yeah what he said..

It wasn't long ago the 01 1k was considered to fast by some. When I got my 02 1k I heard all the same stuff, but really the bike is very managable at all speeds. I took it easy on my bike at first feeling it out and what I found is the bike doesn't really do anything without warning. It will wheelie like no bodies business and will blast you out of a curve really fast and sometimes I've been told I've was trailing smoke off my back tire exiting corners, but my bike never hinted that there was a problem. The chassis is solid.

For street and canyon ridding unless your just abusive with the throttle the bike gets you around corners with great ease. Now I would have to say the bike really loves the fast sweepers. It does fine in the slow 30 or 40mph corners to, but feels a little heavier then say a 600cc and when your in really tight corners like that you can't just peg the throttle mid corner being since you'll be in probably first gear otherwise the back end will come around on you. But like I said the bike just demands that you use your head and the throttle judicially in the tight stuff.

So why do you want to switch to a 1000. I mean really a 125 rwhp 750 is enough bike for most people in the curves. You can only go so fast through a curve, of course getting to them is a different story.

 

02GIXXER said:

bmfgsxr said: Now I would have to say the bike really loves the fast sweepers. It does fine in the slow 30 or 40mph corners to, but feels a little heavier then say a 600cc and when your in really tight corners like that you can't just peg the throttle mid corner being since you'll be in probably first gear otherwise the back end will come around on you. But like I said the bike just demands that you use your head and the throttle judicially in the tight stuff.

So why do you want to switch to a 1000. I mean really a 125 rwhp 750 is enough bike for most people in the curves. You can only go so fast through a curve, of course getting to them is a different story.

WELL THERE IS MORE STRIGHT ROADS THEN CORNERS.. I MEAN I HAVE A 748 AND MY BOY JUST GOT A 999 AND THE BIKE IS HOT... BUT I LIKE SPEED AND I THINK I MIGHT GET IT AND JUST TAKE MY TIME AND BUILD MY SKILL ON IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPES.. BUT YEAH ON THE DUKIE U CAN EXCEL ON THE CORNERS AND ITS GOOD I GUESS BECAUSE IT KEEPS THE SAME TORUE AND RIDES IT OUT.. SO I GUESS I WILL HAVE TO BE GENTEL AND RIDE IT SAFELY IN THE CORNERS AT 30 OR 40 AND TAKE IT EASY... IM SCARED OF THEM SO WHAT ANYWAY SO I GUESS I WOULD LIKE THE POWER... IM MEAN IM 6FT 290 SO I LIKE HOW THE BIKE FEELS UNDER ME AND HOW I FEEL LIKE IT FITS GOOD.. THANKS FOR THE INFO.. YEAH I HEARD ABOUT THE END COMMING OUT BUT THAT CAUSE U ARE USING THAT POWER WE WILL SEE IM GOING TO GETIT AND IF I FEEL ITS TOO MUCH PUT THAT FOR SALE SIGN UP LOL

 

sorry for the caps lol i know u guys hate that

 

just remember that every corner is different. and technically if you are accelerating through out the entire corner then you went into it too slow. but thats for a race track. on the track you will hold the gas pinned til the very last second and then you brake so hard that the rear wheel will start to lift off the ground, then you slowly let off the brake and lean the bike over more and more and you will trail brake right to the apex of the turn at which point you start to slowly roll on the throttle and stand the bike up as fast as possible to get to wide open throttle!.. but you shouldnt ride like that on the street anyhow.. good luck.

 

bmfgsxr said:
just remember that every corner is different. and technically if you are accelerating through out the entire corner then you went into it too slow. but thats for a race track. on the track you will hold the gas pinned til the very last second and then you brake so hard that the rear wheel will start to lift off the ground, then you slowly let off the brake and lean the bike over more and more and you will trail brake right to the apex of the turn at which point you start to slowly roll on the throttle and stand the bike up as fast as possible to get to wide open throttle!.. but you shouldnt ride like that on the street anyhow.. good luck.

so i guess we should take the corners on the street alot easyer... break in the turn and maintain a reasonable speed.. depending on the turn... but lets say 30 to 40 mph and lean.. and look threw the turn then comming out the turn u should add gas as needed or gradually

 

every turn is different some turns you can do 80 through and hardly lean the bike, others you need to do 20 through.. just get all your braking done well in advance so you dont have to trail brake on the street. there is no need for it. and ideally you shouldnt worry about going so fast that you drag a knee on the street. even though i dont practice what i preach its not the safest way to ride the street.

 

Look carefully at the fuel injection differences. I have heard that the 750 is a little more on/off with driveline lash than the 1K but I don't always believe what I hear. I have taken my 02 1000 out on small racetracks for track days and it is not to bad (althou8gh I am tired by the end of the day. In street riding my 1K corners much better than my old ZX-6R

 

When my '01 750 was stolen earlier this year I replaced it with an '01 1k. I just couldn't resist, mostly because it was an incredibly good deal. The 1k doesn't really handle that much different. In my opinion, the difference in handling really isn't very noticeable on the street at all. Then again, I don't run corners in town like I would on the track, as there are many things on the street that make this waaaaay too dangerous, on a 750 or 1k. Things like gravel, smashed soda cans (try running over one with the rear tire while leaned, you'll be my hero if you keep it upright), small pets, people jumping into crosswalks, etc. To be honest, I would probably trade my 1k for an equal year/mileage 750 if it had a bit more bling, as it's plenty of bike for the road. Hell, probably better for me and most other racers on the track as well.

A LITTLE MASTERBIKE COMPARO BETWEEN THE 750 AND 1K GIXXERS:

BEST LAP:
750 155.696
1000 156.327

RIDER'S BEST LAP
750 14
1000 4

OVERALL BEST LAP RANKING
750 2ND (right behind zx-10R, with top rider on it)
1000 4TH

Hmm, looks like even for the track the 750 may be the best choice.