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dont know what went wrong with my baby

8.2K views 31 replies 12 participants last post by  Lean With It  
#1 ·
Hey guys I dont post much but I am always on here reading and now I have a prob with my baby. I have a 2000 gsxr 600 and I tore it apart so that i could get it painted(will post pics when I get it put back together if I can figure it out lol) and I got all the parts back and started to put it back together and I put the tank back on and plugged it into the wiring harness and the pump started working. The issue here is the key was not in the ignition. I put the key in and turned it on and back off but that did not work the pump just kept on humming. I also noticed at that point that I dont have any lights working anywhere. My guages wont power up or anything. By the way it is a brand new battery lol. I have went through and checked all my connectors and made sure that the are clean and fully put together. I have a wiring diagram for the bike but the print is so small I cant hardly read it. :dunno :banghead Please Help!!!!!!!!!!! Dont know what else to do. Thank you for your help been working on it for 4 hours going to go to bed now but i will check back later today.
 
#3 ·
Mine is doing the same thing basically. If i turn the key on sometimes nothing will happen, no power at all no lights no gauges, but if it sits a second everything will kick on. As soon as i hit the starter swith...all power turns off. My battery isn't new tho, so i'm gonna start there. Let us know if you get it fixed.
 
#5 ·
There is a good wiring diagram on here somewhere. It is bigger print than most. You can try searching for it.

I used it too trace wires for my speedo when it wasnt working before. Turned out my Gauge was just broken.

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Sadly enough thats the only one I have right now.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Well unfortunately I got stuck at work today so no time to work on it. I am going to pull the battery and have it tested and thank you for the wiring diagram GreenDayFreakRct I will print it and see what I got and I hope its not possessed sradiator lol and gsxr-freak is there a way to check and see if the ignition switch is bad. Thanks again for all your help guys. Ok after not being able to sleep I went out and started tracing wires. It seems that the fuel pump relay which is built into the starter solenoid is sending constant power to my fuel pump. Not sure if this has anything to do with the rest of the bike not having power. I am ging to assume that the starter solenoid is bad. any takers on this idea.
 
#9 ·
I am sure that the service manual has a way to test the ignition switch... Off hand, I am not sure. It would likely need to be disconnected from the wire harness and then set to off, doing a continuity test and then turning to on, park, and so on.

My thinking is that maybe the ignition is failing and has one signal always on and the rest are not turning on?

John
 
#10 ·
I unplugged the ignition switch from the harness and matched the wire colors up with the above diagram and everything tested good. I also tested every switch on the bike that the starting circuit runs through and those that dont. I stopped at a local repair shop and he said that it sounds like something is plugged in wrong. I explained to him that every plug is different and that its not possible. He does not think the solenoid is bad. I just dont know where to go next I have tried everything that I can think of. He can not even come close to looking at it for at least a week and a half:banghead. I want to be back up and running for Super Bike Weekend at Mid Ohio Sports Car Course. Any other ideas out there from anybody please.:frantic
 
#12 ·
Test the relay itself. You should NOT have a closed circuit with the relay out of the bike. If it is closed with no power running to it, then you know the relay is bad.

John
 
#14 ·
Hmmm. So your fuel pump will keep running?:shifty

If everything worked before you had it painted then :wtf

Don't you hate mystery problems:lmao This happened in the Marines with the helo's I worked on and honestly sometimes a good tap to the suspected component will loosen things up where they started working.

Will the pump continously hum or just for a few seconds. Ima check out the diagram where the solenoid plug is, but I would think that power is sent to pump at the exact same time it is sent to the solenoid. Why would power run to the solenoid and then to the pump, the solenoid just starts bike right?

Sounds like a bad relay :dunno
 
#19 ·
This happened in the Marines with the helo's I worked on and honestly sometimes a good tap to the suspected component will loosen things up where they started working.
off topic but... seriously???:eek:hmy :facepalm

thank God i'm not a marine!
 
#15 ·
looks like the solenoid valve energizes the fuel pump relay which, then energizes fuel pump and the fuel pump appears to have some sort of sensor that controls it's operation (A and B) on the schematic. I wanted to say that your relay is bad but if the key is not even in the ignition then power should never have been sent to the solenoid valve so even if the relay was stuck it still shouldn't energize the pump.

This would drive me crazy, wait it is and it's not my bike. Good luck with this, Can't wait to hear the fix...
 
#18 ·
Ok guys this is what I have figured out so far. It is not the starter solenoid and if i unplug the fuel pump relay it just keeps on humming. Now here are a couple things that really got me confused. I was using the wiring diagram from above and started to notice that there was some difference beween my bike and this diagram so I called local dealer and found out that they changed the wiring harness on the 2000 gsxr 600. The problem with that is that I can not find a updated wiring schematic. The dealer wont give me a copy of theirs obviously "Bring it in we will take a look at it". So if there is anybody out there that has a wiring schematic for a 2000 gsxr 600 that would be a great help. Any other ideas maybe :dunno
 
#21 · (Edited)
Ok guys this is what I have figured out so far. It is not the starter solenoid and if i unplug the fuel pump relay it just keeps on humming. Now here are a couple things that really got me confused. I was using the wiring diagram from above and started to notice that there was some difference beween my bike and this diagram so I called local dealer and found out that they changed the wiring harness on the 2000 gsxr 600. The problem with that is that I can not find a updated wiring schematic. The dealer wont give me a copy of theirs obviously "Bring it in we will take a look at it". So if there is anybody out there that has a wiring schematic for a 2000 gsxr 600 that would be a great help. Any other ideas maybe :dunno
:wtf so then that means your fuel pump is getting direct power from somewhere? Did someone pass the fuel pump relay and hook the fuel pump directly to the battery or some other means of constant power? Sounds like someone would do that in a pinch if say they were riding and the relay went out :dunno but that's how you can tell if your fuel pump is bad, by giving it direct power.....if it doesn't prime up, then it's bad, if it does, then usually the relay is bad. So did someone do that and leave it hook up that way or cross some wires?

chocolate rain has all the manuals and diagrams in his sig - free downloads. Here ya go http://www.servicemanualsgsxr.com/600/Suzuki_GSX-R_600_97-2000.pdf
 
#25 ·
Yes the bike was tore apart and no plugs were taken apart until this happened. The hot feed going to the fuel pump is coming from a contact in the starter solenoid. Nothing is plugged in wrong because none of the plugs are the same they all have their own home. I am going to try to get a fuel pump relay and try that if that does not work then the only other thing is the cdi. I have checked all the other relays and switches and I did check and make sure the grounds were hooked up lol. Any other ideas?
 
#26 ·
make sure that the plugs all go into the right ones. i made the same assumption on my bike and found out 3 different plugs all fit each other and all 3 were in the the same general area. i didnt label them, but i remembered how the wire looked and they all found their correct home. i blieve it was the vacuum sensor (?), temp sensor, and something else
 
#27 ·
ok I checked all the plugs and they are plugged in correctly. I made some jumper leads and verified that relay next to the starter solenoid which i believe is the fuel pump relay is working properly. When power is applied the contact changes state and I verified it with my meter. The one thing that i have found that does not seem right to me is the kick stand switch when tested is reading open no matter whether the kick stand is up or down. I bypassed it by connecting the two wires together and that did not change anything. Any ideas?????
 
#31 ·
Ok no luck with that relay.:hammer I am going to lose my mind here before too long. Anybody out there in the mansfield ohio area that might be able to give me a hand with this. There are two shops other than the dealer and neither of them are known for there electrical troubleshooting abilities. Thanks