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#24 ·
passed my test in June - HAD to use the rear brake as default for anything under 20 miles per hour...........Freaked me out, and is against everything i thought to be true.
 
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#25 ·
Man, I wish I would have read all of this about a year ago before I started rididng. I guess we all have to learn in our own way though right? My first and only wreck was because I paniced and locked up the rear break and it through me off. Oh well, the bike wasn't hurt and I started using the front break alot more and everything is great now. Don't hardly use the rear anymore
 
#26 ·
"The front brakes offer about 90% of the stopping power...really no need to use the rear, un less you can keep from locking it up, which most riders can't....or at least newer riders can't..."

90% huh...wow...very interesting bike you've got. try 'bout 70% on the front and 30% on the rear. the rear brake is great if you know how to use it. keeps the front down going over crest, the fastest way to get through a decresing radius corner, and it settle the chassis when slowing from maximum attack.

you'd better go tell Rossi that he shouldn't use his rear brake any longer 'cause it's just not effective. after you tell him he shouldn't be using it you should enquire 'bout his rear brake/disc after a race to find out why it is destroyed.
 
#27 ·
Every rider pretty much has their own style of brake use,but most riders using the back brake on corner entry tempting fate.Using the back brake around town & at slow speeds helps to stabelize the bike-but at moderate to high speeds & definately on the track-using the front only is the technique rec by keith code & most of the really fast guys I run with.
 
#29 ·
Even I know to lean back when useing the rear brakes. I noticed it was easier to to keep my balance when comeing to a complete stop when I used the rear brakes along with the front brakes. I could keep both feet on my pegs till I came to a stop, instead of "walking" it
 
#30 ·
I try to use my rear brake whenever I'm using my front brake (but mostly I use engine braking) so I can get used to using it, it's there for a reason and it's one of those thigns that in an emergency if you know how to use it properly it could save you.

I'm also interested about trail braking where you use the rear break to control entry speed into a croner without weighting the front of the bike as in front braking.
 
#31 ·
"The front brakes offer about 90% of the stopping power...really no need to use the rear, un less you can keep from locking it up, which most riders can't....or at least newer riders can't..."

90% huh...wow...very interesting bike you've got. try 'bout 70% on the front and 30% on the rear. the rear brake is great if you know how to use it. keeps the front down going over crest, the fastest way to get through a decresing radius corner, and it settle the chassis when slowing from maximum attack.

you'd better go tell Rossi that he shouldn't use his rear brake any longer 'cause it's just not effective. after you tell him he shouldn't be using it you should enquire 'bout his rear brake/disc after a race to find out why it is destroyed.
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Re: using the rear brake and Rossi.............RIDER SKILL CHECK!......how can you possibly compare Rossi, or any highly skilled racer to the average street rider..?

Answer.......you can't...Even most of the skilled club racers only use the front brake..for gettin hauled down from high speed....

And as for the 70 / 30 deal...I beg to differ....Try this, get up to 100 mph, only using the frt. brakes to stop..mark off the distance...then get up to 100 and only use the rear brake to stop...I betcha it's no where near 30 %.

INHO..it's far better for a new / newer, and even a seasoned rider to practice the use of the front brakes only..especailly in a panic mode, cuzz that's when it really counts..99.99 % of riders that attempt to use the rear in a panic usually wind up on the ground. get Proficent at stopping the bike using the most braking power, then If you want to experiment with the rear, and Practice using it in a panic situation...fine.

I think the problem is, that hardly anyone practices braking for a panic situation, that includes evasive manuvers, and braking....so , when it comes to the real thing...riders are lost, and react in a unsafe manner, i.e. stomping on the rear brake, and we all know what happens next. You have much more control using the front, vs the rear brake..
 
#32 ·
I was in a "panic" situation the other day.

I was riding down the road minding my own business in the right hand lane when up ahead there are 3 cars stopped in the left lane (4 lane road VERY tight) so this jackasss who jsut passed me in teh left lane decideds to cut me off, BUT someone two cars ahead of him cut HIM off at the exact same time making the guy who just cut me off slam on his brakes...I thought I was gonna see the back of his car for a second and I did lock up the rear for a split second (barely felt it) and I cursed myself for fucking that up, everything was ok though, I wanted to kick that guys head in
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#33 ·
You need to have some sort of skill using the rear brake to balance the bikes weight transfer. Think about this. If the motogp guys never use the rear brake why do they even have it on their bikes?
 
#38 ·
I never use the back brake, they are useless!

The stopping power comes from the front!!

As you mentioned panic braking at the start if the thread, i thought i would add that at the CBT courses here in scotland i was instructed to use the back brake as the primary brake, only to my peril, as i had become so used to using the back brake in the panic situation i automatically went for the back brake and locked her up and got tossed of like a right tit! Rear wheel lock up can easily lead to highside - BAD, so i only use the front.
 
#39 ·
trail braking is one of the most advanced techniques in sport riding as far as i know... that is why Kevin Schwantz Suzuki School is one of the only racing schools that will teach it if not the only school... is a stupid squid reads this and tries doin that he/she might get hurt... (ima SMRT squid... at least on the road) and engine braking is not as useful on an inline four engine... now on a v-twin it will actually slow you down quite a lot but the nature of inline four likes free revving... engine is there to speed you up and brakes are there to slow you down... and 70/30% is the stopping power ratio not stopping distance ratio... there are many other factors that come in play to that like suspensions, etc.
 
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