So I Heard Everyone Drops It....... Right?

punkadilly · Jul 23, 2004

klepp, you might be a natural. . .but everyone drops their bikes. You're level of confidence isn't going to keep it from happening. . .it's called outside factors

Just like people stating you're pushing your luck. . .you're doing a standup on freeway. How many cagers are around you? I'm sorry to say. . .put you're exuding the "stereotypical" squid attitude. I'm definitely not trying to rag on you either. . . I'm just learning how to handle my bike (I've dropped it 3 times now. . .due to grabbing the front brake too hard

) but I've learned a good bit from being around bikes for a while now (thanks to the hubby).

You call them bandwagon flames. . .but think of all the experience people here have. . .You should take heed to what is said

Have fun riding & be safe

DeathCannon · Jul 23, 2004

Doing stand-up's on the freeway is just begging for a dickhead cop to throw your ass in jail, and impound your bike for reckless endangerment. The question is, was the fun worth it? I myself don't believe it's THAT dangerous if it's the right rider with the right experience. However, I question the judgment of someone who does it on the freeway with other cars around, including the highway patrol hiding behind that bush next to the on-ramp. So, since you show poor judgment in this one area, perhaps you show poor judgment in your own confidence as well. But I'm not flaming you, just asking you to pause and think. You must not have had a terrible cop experience yet. Well let me tell you, in the immortal words of Led Zep,

"Your time is gonna come."

klepp1214 · Jul 24, 2004

i do try to take everyones opinions as open mindedly as possible.. and i "do" see the point behind all of them. i just cant help from it bugging me when anyone says anything is going to 100% happen especially when its something i have control over. and like i said i guess there are factors out of my control. i hate to sound like i dick when i post stuff like this but having confidence is a good thing, cockyness is when your going to hurt yourself. and trust me, i know when im pushing my limits.. i cant hug turns any more than 120 while feeling comfortable.. i still have good 1/2 inch chicken strips on my tires that i dont think will be leaving the building anytime soon. while i watch my more experienced friends pull away on their 1000's i sit back and catch up on the straights when i feel comfortable. and as far as bad cop experiences.. look up another thread of mine, 3 tickets already although one was a parking violation. 2 at once one for no endorsement which i readily went and got... and the other for a wheelie on a public road which i no longer do courtesy of that ticket so i took it to the freeway. no i dont do them in traffic, you cant... you need alot of room obviously. i get in the fast lane when i have a good 1/2 mile window each way atleast. and yes theres always the chance of a cop nailing you but.. they'll nail ya for flyin by at 120 too wont they ? and im not sure how it is in other states but here in MI , freeway cops are few and far between. regardless maybe one day i will drop my bike, but with any luck and my amount of passion for my bike, if it happens it will be out of my control... i wanna say im too careful but that sounds kinda ... whats the word im lookin for ?
anyhow most dropped bikes occur under X (x = a very low number) rate of speed right ?

97_gsxr_750_srad · Aug 2, 2004

Just remember it will bite u in the ass when u least expect it.

AlphaOne · Aug 4, 2004

don't feel too bad, cus i did the same thing. Only my bike was brand spankin new! dropped it at a stop sign, making a right hand turn. I felt like such an ass.

Cobra870 · Aug 5, 2004

Most bikes are wrecked at under 35 MPH. MOst (I think like 75% or so) of motorcycle accidents are the fault of another driver, usually a left hand turning cage that turns in front of you. But, here is the interesting one. Most other bike accidents that do not fall into the above catagories fall under single motorcycle accidents. 90% of these accidents are the result of a rider misjudging cornering speed and entering a turn too fast (most of the time this happens, the rider could have made the turn, they just thought they were going too fast because of lack of experience) Those 90% of riders this happened to had less than one year on a bike. So, like someone above said, stop and think a little. Yeah, most happen under 35, but with no gear, that is more than enough to kill you, or put you in for a lot of skin grafts. The cager we obviously have NO control over whatsoever. As far as misjuding cornering speed, that comes with experience. That is probably the single most important thing that new riders need to know...There is ABSOLUTLY NO SUBSTITUTE FOR EXPERIENCE>>>PERIOD!

Climat · Aug 6, 2004

SVS said:

So repeat after me: "On a sport bike, DO NOT USE THE REAR BRAKE!!!"

Well... I can't agree in here.
I always use the rear cause it stops the wobbling of rear tire caused by very hard breaking and gear changing (mostly in corners).
It gives a lot of stability when used gently and I say LEARN to use it cause it's very helpfull. Especialy when you're leaning hard and some shit happens in front of you.

JuddFL · Aug 6, 2004

soulofadra6on said:
what happens if ur in a rear wheel skid and u release the brake? when i ride, i keep the ball of my foot on the right peg so i wont stomp my foot down in a panic...that way if i use the rear brake, it's in a conscious controlled manner

If the rear is locked, and the front wheel and rear wheel are not aligned (basically the handlebars are turned) and you release the rear brake, the sudden pushpower/spin from the rear wheel will put you on your ass (in a highside I think). Thats what I was told in MSF.

I stopped using my rear brake. When I used to cruise up to a light I would use ONLY the rear brake. My logic was the rear brake gets much less use so let me use it up instead of the front. Well in fear of a panic/emergency stop and screwing the pooch, I dont use the rear at all anymore. Hopefully the time will never come but if it does, I wont "react" and clamp the rear brake.

I suggest finding an open area and practice braking. Its amazing how well these bikes will stop. But you really need to practice it

Kleep, you need to find some new riding buddies. This is a dangerous sport and pushing somebody beyond their level is fucking stupid. Thank god my group is all responsible people.

Cobra870 · Aug 9, 2004

The rear brake has its place, and as long as it is kept there, everything will be good. What I did, was get out of the habit of using it, which I have done a long time ago. This puts you where you want to be (assuming we are talking street riding here and not racing) in the the rear brake is no longer an instinct, but a tool that will only be used on conscious command. I use the rear coming up to a stop in gravel, or holding the bike in place at a light. I have used it in a panic stop before but like I said, it was a conscious decision. I grabbed as much front as traction would allow, and then decided to use a little rear, which I applied easily and quickly without ever locking the tire.

So I Heard Everyone Drops It....... Right?

punkadilly

DeathCannon

klepp1214

97_gsxr_750_srad

AlphaOne

Cobra870

Climat

JuddFL

Cobra870

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