Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums Gixxer.com banner
1 - 8 of 8 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
30 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I'm a racing freak when it comes to motorcycle road racing, love watching it, love going to the track and actually doing it. I was trying to keep up with the stats from my favorite Super Bike Series and of course Suzuki is in serious contention in ASBK( Aussie series), MotoGP, but is lacking in BSB(Bennets British Super Bike) and not even in the line up in WSBK(World Super Bike). Does anyone know why Suzuki doesn't have a factory team in WSBK or why they have been so lacking in BSB? I have tried to find out through emails and such but have yet to get an answer or even a guess as to why. Any insight to my question would be greatly appreciated.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
257 Posts
This is my opinion, based on the factual info I absorbed over the years. Suzuki used to be in WSB's but we all know there's a certain Euro bike manufacturer which has pushed the rule book almost into extinction with its constant abuse of the rules from day 1, building and demanding that they get special dispensation to run larger capacity bikes so they could keep up and then adding non standard parts to further enhance their already one sided advantage even further. As they years rolled by Suzuki and other Japanese manufacturers began to get tired of this b/s and threatened to pull out and form their own world series, leaving this other bike crowd to become a WVTS (World Vee Twin Series) all by themselves. They soon pulled in their horns and complied, for a while, but then soon began its usual abuse and demand tactics again, making more and more demands each year. Several years ago, Suzuki said enough is enough and said they were out of here and would never return as long as that "brand" was part of it, because they could see this other brand continuing along their "toy throwing out of the cot" ways forever. Guess what,, they were dead correct, weren't they...!!! WSB is but a shadow of its former self now and we all know why. Spectators and followers are not stupid and will soon grow tired of b/s when it's thrown their way year after year, making the series boring and sad and most of all, without any clear hard and fast rules.. Each year they bring something new to the table. They and their followers call it leading edge technology. The rest of us call it plain old ch**ting, because that's what it is, and that particular brand of bike is now synonymous with bad taste in some parts of the world. The original WSB series was formed on street bikes and even though basically all the brands had their little secrets to reveal over the years, that one brand to me has a bad company philosophy. This year has not really gotten off to a great start for them, because last year they once again got dispensation to run much higher revs (along the power vs revs rule formula) with their "new" bike, but BMW under the same new bike circumstance were denied along with all the rest. They were able to rev up to approx 16,200 rpm while the others were all capped at up to approx 14,500 rpm. This year many of the others have now adopted the "so can we" attitude and have developed new bikes along the same lines as "them", hence all the horsepower bump ups for this years new models, and can now also follow the exact same ruling as them, but you just wait and watch, like mushrooms popping up overnight, it's more than likely that "they" will soon adopt something new - once again...

It's not only in WSB either. Have a look at MotoGP and tell me which brand is always in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons. Last year they submitted their own versions of the rules in certain sections of the book and expected the series owners to change the rules concerning add-on bits and pieces. Nothing ever gets done about their constant indiscretions which are just glossed over and forgotten about, so now the others simply adopt the same attitude - if they can, so can we. The difference being that some of the others know how to do it much better and by the rules...

Al
 

· Registered
Joined
·
30 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 ·
I know exactly what your talking about I was confused watching the MotoGp tests this year and trying to figure out how a rider can change the ride height while out on the track and it be a totally mechanical process with no electronics involved when just about all the bike have ECM's that control the suspensions. I also noticed in the ASBK that particular brand was allow to run a front wing because it was a stock feature on that particular model while all the others manufactures where shit out luck, but in truth the brand that was given the wing had a model which was the exact same bike but without the wing. I'm just so glad to see that so far in the first 2 tests this year Suzuki has been putting them to shame. Just hope that this Corona Virus situation doesn't screw things up any further this year.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
257 Posts
I just finished watching the Moto 3 and 2 Qatar live (well, to be honest I missed Moto3). These 2 classes are very much worth watching too, to see future MotoGP champions in the making and watch their progression upward. Moto 2 was good racing, as usual, but I haven't quite been able to get used to the sound of those triple 765 engines. It just doesn't quite sound like a motorcycle racing sound to me - guess I just got too used to the sound of 4 cyl's over the years. I don't know what's happening to the 600cc classes (both MotoGP & WSB) over the course of this year either but I am sure something is in the air. I haven't been able to pay enough attention to world bike racing like I usually do - too many things to do and not enough time to do them..
Pity the actual MotoGP boys weren't in Qatar to kick the season off this morning. As you say, I too hope this CoronaV thing doesn't interfere too much.. The first 2 rounds being cancelled is more than enough to put a damper on things. Cheers Joafify..

Al
 

· Registered
Joined
·
346 Posts
Very interesting reading. For some reason the brand was not mentioned here. Why. is this the reason this brand changed from VTwin to Vfour....to take the battle to Kawasaki in WSBK. now in Motogp.....they have 6 bikes on the grid with so much support from Marlboro for the factory team.....next season there will be 8 bikes in the motogp grid. Thy are despereate now to win a crown, since Casey Stoner is the only one who has accomplished this.
 

· Yearning for a higher post count...
Suzuki GSXR 600 & 1000
Joined
·
774 Posts
Suzuki definitely needs to be part of WSBK. After some time out of MotoGP, they finally got into the game a couple of years ago and won 2020 ! with Joan Mir taking the crown.

They to make it happen @ WSBK in 2022 ir not for 2023.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
1 Posts
Suzuki definitely needs to be part of WSBK. After some time out of MotoGP, they finally got into the game a couple of years ago and won 2020 ! with Joan Mir taking the crown.

They to make it happen @ WSBK in 2022 ir not for 2023.
For what they focus on motogp and world endurance where they have won 3 titles in 2 years.2 championships in world endurance and the 2020 motogp championship they also finished third in 2021.My point is why spend more money on another championship when they are competitive in motogp and world endurance just to fail like they wy honda is in wsbk.
 
1 - 8 of 8 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top