[srad_sam]

Morning All,

A technical question regarding odometers, please.

When I bought my 600 SRAD (W) the odometer LCD had bled out rendering the display useless - I think this is a common issue as I've seen it on various other bikes for sales too.
I bought a cheap KMH speedo with a view that I would de-solder the LCD and transfer to my speedo; it turns out that the KMH speedo unit is completely different inside so I was unable to swap displays.
I swapped my (MPH) speedo face into the KMH clocks and reinstalled it, it now appears that the clocks are incompatible with my bike (either that or the KMH clocks were DOA.

The ask:
Do you know of any company that supplies new / replacement odometer LCD units that I could solder into my clocks, please?
If not, do you happen to know if there are any differences between the clocks internally? For example; if I bought a 1997 clock would it be compatible?

Finally.. if I cannot replace the LCD and have to use a different clock set with say "50,000 miles" (extreme example), what will happen when I take it for its MOT? My bike has 24k on it, I don't want it to look like the bike has traveled more miles than it actually has?

Thank you all.


Sam.

 

[sradmad600]

Personally I would buy a set of clocks with miles close to what you have. Otherwise you could land up with a huge headache & still no clocks.

 

[BillV]

Unless your cluster is a lot simpler than mine and you are a master solderer, this is probably something to avoid doing yourself. See what's involved here. Note the 30 pin connector for the LCD. I assume that yours is similar. You could contact him to see if he has a replacement LCD, however you may have to buy the parts and send them to him. Perhaps there's someone in the UK who does this sort of thing.

He also does mileage correction. Because of legal issues he's gotten fairly paranoid about it and you will have to sign documents that the new mileage is correct. If the mileage is visible on the faulty cluster it may be simplest to send him it along with the new cluster as a way of convincing him that you're not up to something. See his site and/or contact him for more details.

It's possible to change the mileage yourself and to correct the speedometer and tachometer error as well as the odometer rate error. I'm slowly assembling that information.

 

[srad_sam]

Morning Bill,

Thank you for the reply!

Without sounding cocky, I am pretty handy with a soldering iron having chipped a couple of Honda OBD1 ECUs in the past.
I have a plan underway that involves new OEM speedo clock internals that will drop the milage to 0 - assuming my plan works. I like this idea as the bike will be fully restored and it'll do the overhaul justice.
I fully agree that the law must be considered, I have no major issue with dropping my speedo to zero but am not sure how this will be recorded on my MOTs (not looking to deceive anyone here, simply keen to keep the milage history accurate and not inflate it due to a replacement part).

I will reach out to BlueGauages (thank you for that) to see what they say.

It would be interesting to see how you adjust the milage too, please (happy to DM if you'd prefer). Mainly because I'm a techie at heart and find this all very interesting.

Thanks again!!

 

[BillV]

I'm unaware of nuances like what happens if you buy a new cluster from Suzuki but it's generally illegal to drop the mileage to zero. As I distantly recall, it was once legal to reset the mileage to zero if a new engine was installed. But not any more. I'd expect BlueGauges to want to set it at whatever the correct mileage is. He might be able to read it even if the LCD is dead. There are youtube videos that explain the basics of odometer reprogramming. I'm more interested in getting the speedometer to read correctly while not messing up the odometer reading (something that happens with a SpeedoHealer, etc.). There's also a built-in error in the tach that I'd like to undo. All that is possible.

 

[sradmad600]

^+1, and it will kill the history of the bike

 

[srad_sam]

Thanks chaps, history I'm not overly worried about as I dont think I'll ever sell the bike it is looking far too good.

I'll have a chat with the MOT guy I deal with usually, see what he has to say, not saying I don't agree with your comments, Bill.

Thanks again gents.

 

[BillV]

^Per Blue Gauges:
Saying "I don't plan to ever sell this bike" does not change anything.

Many years ago a friend got a free Triumph TR6 car after determining that the selling dealer had lowered the mileage after importing it from the UK.