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Try it at 30 mph in neutral. The intial grab is the same as an endo but you tapper off on the pressure as it comes up. Make sure your tires are warm and that your traveling straight and you'll be fine. One more thing, when it starts to come down you can squeeze the brake handle to bring it back up, so long as your still rolling. Good luck.
 

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Doing it in neutral will also prevent your bike from making that huge CLACKING sound when the tire meets the ground... even with the clutch in, the chain or transmission is hit a lot harder with stress than with your bike in neutral. For me, a steady roll b/w30-35 mph (and make sure you keep your eye on the speedo before braking) and pump slightly harder when the rear comes up.
And if your in neutral, your bike lands a lot smoother than in gear w/clutch.
 

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i would recommend maybe 45mph to learn
i say that because your going to scrub alot of speed off when learning
they key, obviously, is brake control

compress the forks, then apply an extra squeeze while leaning foward...keep looking down the road...NOT DOWN AT THE GROUND....and clasp the tank with your legs

then practice alot and eventually you will be able to apply the brakes and lift the back wheel quickly and roll as opposed to slowing down and going higher the whole time

as for what gear to wear...i wear all my gear regardless of what trick im doing/learning
 

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im freaking PISSED! i've been reading the stoppies posts and have been trying to do them occasionally when I have the chance. I know I shouldn't, but the only times I really pratice them are when I hit a red light in visibly EMPTY intersections. i've been just trying to brake harder than i usually would from around 25-30 mph, but i never have been able to get the rear end up. at the most i would lean forward and i can feel the rear susupension decompressing, but thats about it. im pretty sure something is wrong with my technique. i usually just watch my speed drop lower than 30 mph and then i compress both the clutch and front brake while leaning forward. i have gotten used to braking with only two fingers and i was wondering if i should try using 3 or 4 fingers instead. also, i think i should try braking at higher speeds as posted earlier (~45 MPH). any suggestions would be appreciated.
 

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im freaking PISSED! i've been reading the stoppies posts and have been trying to do them occasionally when I have the chance. I know I shouldn't, but the only times I really pratice them are when I hit a red light in visibly EMPTY intersections. i've been just trying to brake harder than i usually would from around 25-30 mph, but i never have been able to get the rear end up. at the most i would lean forward and i can feel the rear susupension decompressing, but thats about it. im pretty sure something is wrong with my technique. i usually just watch my speed drop lower than 30 mph and then i compress both the clutch and front brake while leaning forward. i have gotten used to braking with only two fingers and i was wondering if i should try using 3 or 4 fingers instead. also, i think i should try braking at higher speeds as posted earlier (~45 MPH). any suggestions would be appreciated.
4 fingers and gripping the tank with my legs did the trick for me...
IMO when you use all four fingers, you don't have to squeeze as hard with each finger, thus making it easier to control the brake. During normal riding, I use two fingers too...

 

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I read this post a few weeks back and finally gave it some practice. Find a large vacant parking lot that is clean and grippy(no stones and not recently sealed). Go about 20-22 mph in first gear and put the bike in neutral. Start by giving the front brakes some pressure to compress the forks. Once the forks have compressed you can give it full brake. The back of the bike will lift to about a 50-60 degree angle.

At this speed the risk seemed small and it had a decent height. Practice over and over again.
 

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thanks rochester squid. where from there are you? my roommate lived there his whole life.
 

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For all those wondering what gear to be in,It really doesnt matter if you pull in the clutch! Im usually in 2nd at about 50 or higher depending on how far Im lookin to go.This may have been mentioned but Ill say it again incase it hasnt but the faster you go the safer it actually is and the less chance you have of goin over.The best way I can explain them is to grip the tank with your legs and and at the same time get on the brake lift your azz off the seat alil and kinda jump up but keep your legs locked on the tank and dont come to far up.Try not to hit the brake to much before hand cuase it lowers your momentum alot.And about the noise it makes, try hittin the rear brake as you come down and that takes care of most of the noise. This is me doin a short rollin stoppie when I didnt know I was being tapped so it aint the best, but its the only one I got on film on here.Hope I helped somebody and remember stoppies are just as if not more dangerous than wheelies so BE CAREFULL.Dont try them commin to stops at intersections , to much debrie and other bs like water from a/c and oil and stuff and the idiots behind you that arent expecting the abrupt stop .

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I just started stoppies not too long ago myself, a few weeks now. I never did the static stoppie, started with rolling them...i got my advice from weber of IBWS....he can roll stoppies for 500-600 feet from 55mph. i lowered the pressure to about 10-15 psi in the front, but remember you may have to ride home, i live in IL, so its all straight lines, but lowering the pressure makes the bike handle incredibly different.

advice: i go about 30 mph and use 3 fingers, usually in 2nd gear as my TL1000S is geared up +6 in the rear, making 1st almost unusable...haha its fun...
keep yourself centered and dont rock forward, let your brakes do the work, leaning can cause your bike to kick out sideways easier as your weight can shift side to side alot easier.

make sure the road is level(makes a big difference), and your tire is warm...do some hard braking runs to warm up tire and get used to the feel of your brakes.

steer with your shoulders, not your hands. not that easy, but you have to get your weight balanced on your hands so the rear end doesnt want to come around...

have a steering damper on your bike, i cannot emphasize that enough. i have MX bars for my streetfighter, makes it easier, but i dont have a damper, i went to full lock when at vertical and the bike ended up balancing on the bars and seat, with the tires in the air (backwards i know) luckily i was only doing maybe 5mph when this happened, and barely any damage.

IF YOU WANT A NICE BIKE, DONE STUNT< AND DO THE SPEED LIMIT...also dont complain like a dam sally when you fuck up, remember its your fault...

well, thats enough for now. practice and be progressive, you have all day and most of tomorow to learn, dont rush it.

Zach
 

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IF YOU WANT A NICE BIKE, DONE STUNT< AND DO THE SPEED LIMIT...also dont complain like a dam sally when you fuck up, remember its your fault...

Zach
bwahahhaha.. sally's suck.. dont be a sally...
 

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I myself used Gary Rothwel's method, an empty parking lot , a cammcorder, And downloaded every stoppie video i could find.

Watch the videos to see how its done.
have a friend tape you so you can see how high/low your going and what your doing Right/wrong.
 

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heh its easy when you have an R1


but seriously... Its not so much a matter of speed as it is Momentum. My first stoppie was an almost decent 10 o'clocker from 15mph or maybe less. needless to say it was accidental....

Its important to
a. Hump the tank
b. Find a good, clean (not dusty) road that your front tire will grip well
c. Look over your windscreen at your tire and focus on really trying to 'feel' the bike and balance it so that all the pressure of the motorcycle is pushing Down on the front tire (not sideways, not forward)
d. Do not use the rear brake (i think this is a no-brainer)
e. Squeeze the tank relatively hard with your knees. It'll feel like you're going to slide forward over the tank.

as the forks compress, the rear will come up, thats all you gotta do

if it feels like you're going to go over the front, ease up on the front brake

hope i was some help!
 

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d. Do not use the rear brake (i think this is a no-brainer)
At least not before initiating the stoppie. If you hit the back brake just before letting the stoppie drop back down, it all but eliminates the hefty "CLUNK" when the bike comes down. It's not the suspension making the noise, it's the wheel/chain coming to an instant stop. Stop the rear wheel from spinning while it's still in the air, and your stoppies will "land" nice and quiet.
 

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I just bought a 96 750, and the front brake rotors feel warped, at least compared to my older kawi. If the front brakes are warped like that, is it even possible to do a stoppie? At $600 to get new rotors, replacements won't be put on 'til next spring!
 

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I just bought a 96 750, and the front brake rotors feel warped, at least compared to my older kawi. If the front brakes are warped like that, is it even possible to do a stoppie? At $600 to get new rotors, replacements won't be put on 'til next spring!
ebay is your solution.... my friend is gonna put up a whole front rim up on ebay from a 97 gsxr750 maybe he'll take off the rotors.... the rotors might be floating type.... i tried to shake it but it only shakes a little.... well at least not like my floating rotors..... but i believe its still all g. checkz out ebay..... your gonna be stunting it anyways.
 

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rabbit1984 said:

Quick ? Sometimes I can do these sick a$$ stoppies and other times my bike will just skid is there something I'm missing?
1 of 3 things i can think of:

Tire pressure. too much = less area of the tire you ride on.
road, the road must be clean and have a decent texture to it for the front tire to stick
and temperature, if your tire is cold and its cold outside well its goin to slip. warm that puppy up.

-Jay
 

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My friend told me to start learning stoppies by going about 10-15 mph's and slam on the front brake. this raised the back about 15 inches, then slammed down pretty hard because i was at a completed stop. is this correct? My friend likes to do this at about every other stop light, not really rolling at all. what i'm more worried about is the cracking noise from the front forks. does this happen for everyone that owns a 02GSXR600. i'm 6-1" 185 pound, am i too Fat or what? Only tried a stoppie 2 time because i feel as if that cracking Noise is F*cking my bike up. i also heard from a local insurance company that they had a few people with GSXR and the front fork split while riding a stoppie, dont know if that was true
 
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