[harleystenroos61]

Hey guys I'm back with another problem. So this is the second starter to do this but the starter that I bought for my GSXR 1000 strip the teeth on the starter so I took the old starter I fixed it and I put it on there it's worked so good so far that last night it stripped itself again I want to know what's causing that to happen could it be because I need new gaskets or do I just need to buy a better starter?

 

[BillV]

I don't see how gaskets could be causing the starter teeth to fail. Are you buying Denso starters? They would have a green & silver label on the body with the Suzuki and Denso pn's. Did you have the starter clutch cover off when you worked on it before? The bores that the "pins" sit in can be damaged if the bike was ever dropped on its right side. It would be nice to confirm that all the starter gear train parts are present, in the correct order, and with no apparent damage.

It is annoying when a used Denso costs more than a new aftermarket starter.

 

[harleystenroos61]

All of the parts inside r brand new the only thing that is damaged is the starter teeth. They make a perfect outline the the idler wheel lol but it's the second time it's happened to the stock starter and an aftermarket one.

 

[TwistedMister]

make sure all parts are present and in the proper order.. gp over it again from scratch, make sure nothing's bent as in idler carrier so forth .. and you have the proper number of teeth

 

[harleystenroos61]

 

[harleystenroos61]

The starter has damage too but that's it idk y tho

 

[BillV]

Hard to tell but the big gear looks like it has some damage and/or rounded teeth. Does it rock at all on the bearing? There are used gear/bearing/pin assemblies on ebay for $40. They look reasonable but I really don't know what you're getting into with them. They don't seem to have all the washers that are needed but I'd hope that you have them and they can be used. There also are used big gears for significantly less but I'd first want to be sure that you have a 100% good bearing. Note that if you were missing the outside 12x20x1 washer, it might allow the gear to shift outward and not properly engage the starter gear. As best I can tell, you can visually check the starter to idle gear engagement by leaving the starter in place and removing the idle gear cover. But don't crank it like that as the cover supports the outer end of the pin.

The bevel on the inside of the teeth seems to be there to match the gear on the starter output. That's the way they're made but I've always wondered about it.

 

[TwistedMister]

welp, look at teh wear, see how its offset or angled? thats an indication of whats going on here, its not flat even wear, something is being tilted, when you assemble it again..

make sure every part is spec'd out and in good shape, then crank it over with the cover off and see if something is moving where it should be, looks like a bearing is out and allowing the idler shaft to move..

make sure starter is not moving at all just spinning that's it, no wiggle, nothing should wiggle, just turn

 

[harleystenroos61]

Could it be possibility the washer on the inner part of the idle gear cuz there isn't one on the outside. If I was to move it to the outside wouldn't it move the gear down further cuz it really looks like its on the edge of the starter gear. I looked at the spacing and it was fine it's almost like it flexing around the teeth but that could also be from it being close to the tip of the starter gear

 

[craigfer63]

2002 Suzuki GSX-R1000 Starter Clutch | Ron Ayers

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[BillV]

There should be three washers for the big idle gear, two 12x20x1 plus one thinner spring washer. For the smaller #2 idler, there's just a spring washer.

I don't know why Suzuki puts the starter clutch parts in the order shown in the diagram. They're just the opposite on the bike and at odds with the FWD arrow. I reordered them in my copy but it was a pain because it's a vector image and there are so may elements in the various parts that aren't grouped.

 

[harleystenroos61]

Yeah imma look for washers that r the same as the one I have I can fit them on the outer big wheel to push it further down into the gears and see if that prevents it from skipping maybe can try while I wait for the starter to come in

 

[BillV]

There should be the spring washer and one of the thicker washers on the outside. On the inside there should be one of the thick washers.

 

[craigfer63]

K7 shows this washer. #5 as a spring washer, on the outside pushing this spur-gear inwards. here

2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 Starter Clutch | Ron Ayers

Shop online for OEM Starter Clutch parts that fit your 2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000, search all our OEM Parts or call at 252-758-3084

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What does the starter motor, shaft, pinion-gear look like ? Any play in this shaft ?
When starter motor / shaft is in place, is it completely engaging with larger spur-gear ?

 

[BillV]

Pics like this indicate that the engagement is near the end of the starter shaft. Go figure.

P.S. On a semi-related aside. The 31175-40F01 starter frame assembly (end mount with bearing & brushes) is $100+ from US dealers but is $37.48+$16.82 s/h from Webike. Go figure again.

 

[craigfer63]

Down under, Mick Hone Suzuki, wants A$ 871 for starter motor.
31100-40F00

 

[harleystenroos61]

I found out the idler gear is moving alot so I need washers we will see if it fixes the problem