Come on. Have you ever seen an R1 up close? The build quality is at least 2 steps higher than a GSXR. The GSXR is more race bike. I tend to liike performance better than looks as well but hey, I can admit that the R1 is more refined and better built.cosworth said:
Underseat exhaust = ghey.
Why - looks good but you have NO trunk now and your ass DOES get hotter.
I never get tired of hearing this crap from yamaha lovers about "refinement". If you want that go buy a Lexus. I'm here to wreak havoc with my bike and scuff my leathers. That being said these bikes don't look as ugly as they did. they still do nothing to inspire me when they make excuses for performance around "refinement" and "looks". And why do most Yamaha people love the R1 front end yet hate the K3 nose? You'll never see it!
Summation. The Yamaha guys are in love all over again. That's good! Stay off my zook!
The R1 tank slaps like a bitch because it does not have a sterring damper........They weld in a section of the R7 frame so they can use the R7 swingarm. It is much, much stronger than the stock R1 unit.erixgix said:
No I dont think it has to details as much as just brand loyalty.
Whats wrong with having a bike with all the goods and have it great looking.
K3 owners already resigned themselves to forgoing the looks to have the best of the rest. But with 04 and everyone stepping up, What do you expect the K3 folks to say not that is officially the ugliest bike of its kind on the planet.
Waht would you do....all the go , stop, and turn but with the look, or all that without....yeah, those Yamaha guys must all be squids.
But on Suzuki's behalf....The r1 has always been fairly evil handling (they all want to tank slap themselves to pieces) for a racebike and is why they have to weld in pieces from the R7 chassis. Maybe they fixed it, maybe they didnt, but wont matter for most folks since they aren't runnig in the top 5 in superbike.
They all have their quirks, but the playing fields is getting very level. But still expect brand loyal types to waive their banners even if they are all about the same.
The R7's cradle is also stouter. But I dont not agree at all about the R1 lack of damper being the problem, rather that is a common misconception. I have had 2 R1s and both had dampers added and they still were very slap happy and needed them cranked down much farther then you do on the gsxr.[email protected] said:
The R1 tank slaps like a bitch because it does not have a sterring damper........They weld in a section of the R7 frame so they can use the R7 swingarm. It is much, much stronger than the stock R1 unit.
Attack Suzuki has been welding sections on GSXR1K's for years to use the R7 swingarm. Mainly because Yosh won't sell them one of theres.
I think the new R1 looks the tits, but I'm not brand loyal to anything.
JeffW, be nice.........