[Hammer 4]

Originally posted by Spooner:
Not all dealers act this way, but most do no doubt. My dealer is very strict on who they sell any GSXR to-they may not sell a ton of gixxers, but they do sell a number of Sv's, Katana's, and Bandits because they talk sense into the rider. Then they get repeat business down the road as the new rider acquires the much needed skills to ride a full on sportbike like the GSXR's. If the shop cared about not only money today but also down the road I would think that this selling apporach would seem better, but like many people they are after the instant gratification that expensive sportbikes give, and dont' really care if the rider lives to become a repeat customer.

-Spooner

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I hate to say it, BUT...maybe in some areas, a dealer can still survive if he/she turns away a sale..and ya can't always talk a new rider into a smaller bike..been there, done that..At least here in so. cali..it's a VERY competitve market..and being that salespeople are all on comission, no sell...no eat..so it's kind of a double edge sword...granted that a salesperson that has any integrity should NOT sell a new rider a 1k, 750..ect..but, they do have to make a living..I'm NOT saying it's right...So what's the answer to this..? I've alway been in favor of tiered lic...that would cure it for sure..but then..what if it limited the # of new riders..? because they would have to start on a smaller bike, would the manufactures oppose the tiered method..? It all comes down to $$$$$ shitty sa it may be...Be nice if someone would step up to the plate, and at least..introduce some legislation that would/could help..

 

[Hammer 4]

Originally posted by gixerking:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Hammer 4:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Spooner:
Not all dealers act this way, but most do no doubt. My dealer is very strict on who they sell any GSXR to-they may not sell a ton of gixxers, but they do sell a number of Sv's, Katana's, and Bandits because they talk sense into the rider. Then they get repeat business down the road as the new rider acquires the much needed skills to ride a full on sportbike like the GSXR's. If the shop cared about not only money today but also down the road I would think that this selling apporach would seem better, but like many people they are after the instant gratification that expensive sportbikes give, and dont' really care if the rider lives to become a repeat customer.

-Spooner

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I hate to say it, BUT...maybe in some areas, a dealer can still survive if he/she turns away a sale..and ya can't always talk a new rider into a smaller bike..been there, done that..At least here in so. cali..it's a VERY competitve market..and being that salespeople are all on comission, no sell...no eat..so it's kind of a double edge sword...granted that a salesperson that has any integrity should NOT sell a new rider a 1k, 750..ect..but, they do have to make a living..I'm NOT saying it's right...So what's the answer to this..? I've alway been in favor of tiered lic...that would cure it for sure..but then..what if it limited the # of new riders..? because they would have to start on a smaller bike, would the manufactures oppose the tiered method..? It all comes down to $$$$$ shitty sa it may be...Be nice if someone would step up to the plate, and at least..introduce some legislation that would/could help..</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i too think the tier thing would help, but on the other hand, once the government starts implementing things like that what will they implement next...street bikes governed to 65mph?? maybe not but once they start somewhere they will continue to make it rougher for us. IMHO</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">True..but we have to start somewhere..? I don't think they could go as far as to limit bikes to 65mph...they would have to do the same with cages..If we/they do nothing..the end result will be..hurt/dead riders. Wrecked bikes, and with that, guess what else follows..? Higher insurance rates..

Ya know I was just thinking how things were when I started riding, and racing..all this carnage was unheard of..sure there were accidents, but NOTHING like it is today, and if that's true, what is the cause.? has to be because of the mega powered bikes..IMHO..At the very least, make NEW riders start out on something no larger than a 500.,I'd rather see it be a 250..even a 500 is a start.

 

[Hammer 4]

Originally posted by SlowKat:
I agree about getting a busa as a first bike is silly stupid, but Im a stong believer in the freedom of choice and the fact that we live in the good ol' USofA for a reason(well, aside from the Canadian people). I like the ability to be able to think for my self and get what I want when I want to. If people want to go out and kill them selves on an R1 for their first bike, I think that's their choice and "Big Brother" should have no say either way. Darwins law is alive, well and working strong. This country has turned into a bunch of whinning sissies that constantly worrie about other people. Smoking kills, No gun, bla bla bla...Just let me live my life my way PLEASE! and if I do kill myself doing somthing stupid, then that's my own damn fault.

/rantmode -off

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I agree, but..in the process, all these Darwin bikes, and riders are costing YOU, and all of us $$$$ in insurance rates..And seriously, do you really want new riders to get seriously hurt, or worse..? Ya don't have to be a whinner to try and help save lives....