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Hi All,

Wondering if its safe (for the bike) to downshift to 1st gear for tight corners on my GSXR 1000? I'm coming from the perspective of cars .. i.e don't use 1st for engine braking. Is this the same for a race-style bike though? There's plenty of near-hairpin corners on my favourite mountain ride where 2nd just just runs out of engine compression and all i have is brakes. I've done it a couple of times by mistake and it feels ok. I don't want to trash my box though, or invite a lockup !!

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I wouldn't recommend going to first. First gear on these bikes are designed for taking off... i.e. starting from a standstill at peak torque RPM for maximum acceleration. You will unhook the rear MUCH easily in first, in a turn. The gap between 2nd and first is taller than between the rest of the gears and I am sure you can hear the "clunk" between them when gearing down.

First gear is for taking off, only.
 

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Hi All,

Wondering if its safe (for the bike) to downshift to 1st gear for tight corners on my GSXR 1000?
I don't think I've heard of any bike at all being unsafe just because it's in first gear while simultaneously in a tight corner. :dunno
 

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I would suggest that it depends on how experienced of a rider you are. Mechanically it won't destroy the bike, but it will be much easier to break the rear loose, especially on a larger displacement bike. Be aware of the road conditions as well. After the snow leaves up here, there is often a lot of loose, sandy stuff on the roads. If you hit a slick patch in first gear at higher RPM, a small twist of the wrist could end your ride fast!
 

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I might wait for a few more replies before i slot it down to 1 for the corners regularly :) FYI, got the quickshifter on my R1000R and it didnt seem to protest at on those few shifts. 2nd seems sluggish pulling from the hairpins as the bike grumbles up to RPM. Copy that on the damp/leafy roads though. Re: experience, i 'think' im ok .. but all it takes is that one bad shift/corner.

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What year is the bike? Has it got a slipper clutch?
There are some 5-10kph hairpins near mine, I mostly use 2nd and feather the clutch and Ive got to be careful it doesn't throw its head up.......But I'd never describe it as sluggish coming out of any corner is 2nd.
 

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I wouldn't recommend going to first. First gear on these bikes are designed for taking off... i.e. starting from a standstill at peak torque RPM for maximum acceleration. You will unhook the rear MUCH easily in first, in a turn. The gap between 2nd and first is taller than between the rest of the gears and I am sure you can hear the "clunk" between them when gearing down.

First gear is for taking off, only.
The bike has a 85Mph first gear it’s meant for a lot more then taking off:nono using first for slower corners is of course fine and there is nothing about first that would damage the bike at all:grin2:
 

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Get yourself an auto blipper to help make it smoother for you. This isn't really the bike to be learning the basics on.
 

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Its got a factory auto-blipper .. bike has'nt protested so far on the few downshifts to first that have happened. No blip needed for most of them .. im ok at matching revs to shifts generally.
 

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It won't damage the tranny at all, but I would advise against it. On a liter bike it is much more difficult to control the throttle, you are either going to spin the rear or unload the front enough to affect steering and go wide on exit. Are you on the throttle well before the apex? I am betting you are losing to much corner speed which make the exit in second feel sluggish.

That is why nobody ride wheelies in first. It is much easier to loop. The higher the gear, the smoother your inputs are.

When I ride the mountains and there are all kinds of 10-20mph corners, I go through them at 30-40mph in second. Is it the fastest way, no. But we are talking street riding where that doesn't mean shit.
 

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I wouldn't say i'm learning on it. Had a GSXR750 before it .. been a few years between though. More a technical question (will i break the bike) than a technique question. Keep the answers coming though!
 

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I wouldn't say i'm learning on it. Had a GSXR750 before it .. been a few years between though. More a technical question (will i break the bike) than a technique question. Keep the answers coming though!
Sorry .. i am learning this forum though!! Need to tick the quote option when replying to your posts!
 

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I wouldn't say i'm learning on it. Had a GSXR750 before it .. been a few years between though. More a technical question (will i break the bike) than a technique question. Keep the answers coming though!
Actually .. re-read my topic. Thats prob given the wrong impression. To clarify, I wouldn't consider myself a rooky rider .. just a rooky GSXR1000 owner.
 

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If you're asking this question then maybe it's not the right bike for you. If you down shift in to first you could cause a disturbance in time and space and the universe will implode and I highly doubt your insurance covers that.

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Definitely safe to use first. And this is why - The drive train is good for Superstock racing. All hairpins and tight corners on track will be taken in first and braking and acceleration will be as harsh as the human body can cope with.
As to whether it’s harder to control, well that depends on the rider, but I happily use first on track and road.
 
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