Eh. Could have also been technique, poor throttle input, letting off the brakes too soon, etc etc etc. I have probably done 20-30 track days on various bikes with bone stock suspension that wasn't touched by anybody...with no issues.
When was the last time you had the forks and shock serviced? Looks like you have Superman era bike...My initial guess was the nut behind the throttle, but after two crashes followed by some balancing of the suspension I was able to hold those lines much better and safer. The suspension was stock but out of whack. I truly think there is something to this and not just mind or lack thereof over matter
:stupidSuspension has little to do with it.
As an example, thanks to a shitty suspension guy and me not knowing enough, I did 4 race weekends with no fork oil in one leg of my forks. I was chasing suspension problems every weekend, yet still managed to turn some of the fastest amateur lap times every weekend, didn't crash once, and won two championships. Once I got my suspension issues sorted, which unfortunately happened to be my last weekend I actually raced, I started turning expert times as an amateur.
Suspension issues can be ridden around until you get to the sharp end of the expert grip, and rarely cause a crash, unless a suspension component breaks or something.
When was the last time you had the forks and shock serviced? Looks like you have Superman era bike...
:cheersNot likely. Old oil doesn't necessarily do that. Old old fades faster when it gets heated up, mind you we are talking a much higher pace than beginning trackday speeds. I'm assuming based on what you said in your first post this is your first start riding on track.
As others have said, and you mentioned earlier the crash was most likely caused by an error in your inputs on the bike. As bad as you think your suspension was, you could have pulled off track, had an expert racer hop on the bike who has never been on it before and cut laps much faster than you were going.
Having the suspension setup properly is absolutely important, but more importantly is don't immediately start pointing to the bike as the scapegoat of the crash you had unless something obviously failed/broke on it causing you to go down.
The less experience a rider has, the harder it is to ride around setup issues. The less experience you have, the less you know what you have to ride around, or what the problem isI must respectfully disagree with you, Mr. Chris Broom. (Who by the way has coached me to some of my best lap times around Barber and holds hero status in my book.)
Mr. Broome, you have forgotten yourself. Yeah, you are one of the better club racers in the country and if given a top spec MotoAmerica bike, might be able to put it on the box at the pro level. BUT.... You weren't born that way. Maybe NOW you can go fast on whatever crap is thrown under you but that's only because you've developed the ability to feel the bike, the tires and the track, then ride within the limits of the equation. A newbie hasn't got all that experience. If his bike is on two different gameplans front to rear, it will probably try to kill him. The less experience a rider has, the harder it is to ride around setup issues. Bad stuff is happening down there but the rider doesn't know why, or what will happen next. So with all due respect, Coach Broome, I think you're wrong. Newbies can really benefit from a proper suspension setup, done by a tuner who knows his business.
+1If you're a first time track rider, you're suspension is the last thing you need to be worried about. Plenty of us here have several racing trophies without even ever touching the suspension clickers. Ride on.
A lot of guys hating on suspension in this thread. I have two questions:Two nearly identical crashes going wide followed by adjustment and tighter lines in proof
I think you are misunderstanding.A lot of guys hating on suspension in this thread. I have two questions:
1) To those of you who are bragging about having won races at the very start of your career without ever addressing suspension adjustment; are you still riding on whatever, or do you now buy and adjust aftermarket suspension on your own bikes?
2) From the clues given in the quote above, can anyone explain why the OP was crashing and what the tuner did to fix it?