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Not that the levers are junk, but Chinese metal is notorious for flaws, so I worry about the structural integrity of rearsets while stunting. I don't believe that the lever issue is anything more than install error, for the majority. There are exceptions in some cases, I'm sure. But I wouldn't be so dismissive to label them all "junk".


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So, you don't trust the Chinese junk for your rearsets, but you are completely comfortable trusting junk for something as unimportant as your front brake lever?
 

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Damn, this means I am gonna have to re-think my upcoming AStars leathers purchase. Any issues with them since they are made in China as well?

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The issue isn't being "made in china" per se. It is that they are KNOCKOFFs made in china with zero quality control or engineering. China doesn't have copyright and patent laws. Knockoffs run rampant there.

With that said I'm not a fan of most astars. I think they are over rated and over proved because of their name.

I can get you in a fully custom set that in my opinion are better than a stars and cost less
 

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I wonder how many of these are related to the mc recall??

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None. Not a single one.

A perfect example of shit chinese metal.

This is a tool for removing plastic retainer clips used on plastic trim and shield retainers. These:


Who would think you need to buy a $50 Snap-on tool for these cheap little plastic clips right?





You can see the huge void in the material. This is a very low torque tool. It snapped in a couple places, the handle broke when the tool slammed closed after the part with the void broke. Would you want your brake lever to look like this?
 

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My mind is fucking blown... There is a tool for those!? :banghead
:lmao My tool is two small straight blade screwdrivers, but I can see that being a must have tool if you are in a shop. I never saw a cheap version of that tool.
 

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None. Not a single one.

A perfect example of shit chinese metal.

This is a tool for removing plastic retainer clips used on plastic trim and shield retainers. These:


Who would think you need to buy a $50 Snap-on tool for these cheap little plastic clips right?





You can see the huge void in the material. This is a very low torque tool. It snapped in a couple places, the handle broke when the tool slammed closed after the part with the void broke. Would you want your brake lever to look like this?
Well, given the pics, I am going to the mummy and get some quality levers. Same with the rearsets. Shame I spent a couple hundred dollars on them though. I'd rather be safe than sorry though. My mind has changed about the Chinese stuff.


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Well, given the pics, I am going to the mummy and get some quality levers. Same with the rearsets. Shame I spent a couple hundred dollars on them though. I'd rather be safe than sorry though. My mind has changed about the Chinese stuff.


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:cheers It's just not worth the risk. :fact
 

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Well, given the pics, I am going to the mummy and get some quality levers. Same with the rearsets. Shame I spent a couple hundred dollars on them though. I'd rather be safe than sorry though. My mind has changed about the Chinese stuff.


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Now spread the word. Save and share the pics, whatever, just get the word out. If it saves one person from a crashed bike, injury or possibly worse then it would be well worth it.
 

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:cheers It's just not worth the risk. :fact






Now spread the word. Save and share the pics, whatever, just get the word out. If it saves one person from a crashed bike, injury or possibly worse then it would be well worth it.
Totally agree guys. Thank God for this forum. There is just a wealth of good advice and information here. Props to whomever started it.

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Totally agree guys. Thank God for this forum. There is just a wealth of good advice and information here. Props to whomever started it.

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Nice to hear that, & also nice to have someone listen & learn from people who are being straight with them. Too many times with this stuff people want to argue with reality & keep pushing their luck.
 

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Last season I done major modifications to my Gixxer , including levers once they were installed they were sticky , few minor adjustments they were fine , the click adjustment is very user friendly and practical , compared to stock .
 

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This doesn't surprise me. I did put about 10k miles on a set of Chinese levers on my Triumph before I heard about this. Thank god the only thing that happened was massive color fading from the sun.

Kinda makes me apprehensive about the ASV levers on my K7 right now. I saw some OEM levers on Ebay for $45 wtf?
 

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So, I am tired of seeing these threads. It is scary

Do not buy cheap ebay brake levers people!!!!

Especially the ones that look like Pazzos and CRGs and the like.

They may make your brakes lock up while riding, and cause a crash. They do so any of three ways.

Most common, the guide hole where the master cylinder plunger sits is too shallow. This holds the brakes on ever so slightly constantly. This causes the brake fluid temps to rise, and the pads to over heat, to the point everything swells and locks up.

Another way they do it is some of them either dont have a pivot bushing at all, or the pivot bushing hole is the wrong size. The hole where the pivot bolt goes galls up over time, and the lever begins to stick, causing the same issue as above

And thirdly, they use crappy billet alluminum. No, Not all billet is the same quality. Often their has voids and flaws in it, or it is not even billet at all but rather a cheap casting. These cheap materials often break or crack at the pivot, and can cause the lever to fall off completely during normal use, or jam and lock up the brakes. Sometimes they break at the adjuster, sometimes in the middle

Here are just the few threads I can find quickly about it if you dont believe me. I am sure there are more.

I often wonder how many people have DIED!!!! because their brakes locked up on the freeway or something, but they were not around to tell anyone what caused it.

Please. Stop. Dont buy them.

If you cant afford quality aftermarket levers, get quality OEM replacements. Lockhart Phillips sells some. Motion Pro sells some. I am sure there are others. DO NOT get the cheap ebay levers. Please.

1: Post 14 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255493&highlight=brakes+locking

2: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335374&highlight=brakes+locking

3:post ten is an installation issue, but similar http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151683&highlight=brakes+locking

4: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324887&highlight=brakes+locking

5: post 30 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313687&highlight=brakes+locking

6: post 5 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310874&highlight=brakes+locking

7: Same issue, caused by simply wrong lever installed http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307155&highlight=brakes+locking leading to this thread on another forum http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-6r-forum/27283-05-636-brake-fluid-expanding-locking-brakes.html

8:http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=292738

9: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271894

10: some accounts in here http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298233&highlight=brakes+locking

11: post 3 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298607&highlight=brakes+locking

12: post 5 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293114&highlight=brakes+locking

13: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328782&highlight=


Ok.......... enough. I am tired of searching. That is only halfway through page 3, of a search result that has 5 pages. And that is mostly only on THIS ONE FORUM, let alone other forums out there that people are not members of this one. And that is only with the proper spelling of "Brake" and not searching "break" which I am sure I could find many more as well.

Do not buy cheap chinese levers!!!!!!








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Couldn't agree more with you!!! I bought some bullshit levers eBay that weren't cheap and it could have ended fatal!!

I bought my gixxer not long ago second hand and have been doing upgrades on it, exterior and performance, and haven't been able to have a proper ride of it. Anyway finally my TRE arrived and I installed it took it for a little squirt nice little HP gain was having heaps of fun (giving it a bit) then cruising along into a merge left and my front brakes decided to lock up. The bike instantly dug into the road and threw me off at 50-60km. LUCKILY a copper was 2 cars back and flicked his sirens on behind me and blocked the lane off. Not many cars woulda been able to see me (black bike, black jacket and 8pm at night) bike survived really well thanks to my oggy knobs! I took most of the skin off my knee and handle/wrist but could have been so much worse. Thought I'd share this because I don't want this to happen to anyone else, As old mate mentioned who knows who this could happen to going along the freeway, it wouldn't end well.

Spend the extra money, because in the end sometimes you don't get second chance at safety.
 

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This just happened to me today, installed some cheap levers off ebay that cost $24(CNC levers) as a quick replacement. As soon as I hit around 50 MPH my front brakes fully locked causing my bike to completely skid and wobble thrusting me forward almost off my bike without even touching the lever. I was lucky enough to keep my bike up and control the skid. The front wheel was still completely locked, I had to remove the lever to unlock it. When I inspected the lever you can tell the hole where the plunger goes in is just to narrow. Ordered some FP levers today, no more cheap knock offs for me
 
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