There is a misconception that one MUST use the carbon pipe hanger provided with the pipe to support the pipe from the rear of the bike. This is NOT TRUE! I just installed my stock footpeg bracket/pipe hanger and it actually makes the pipe sits as nice or better. With the carbon hanger supplied with the pipe, the pipe sits too close to the bike but does have the correct upswing with the lines of the bike. With the stock pipe hanger it kicks the pipe out 1/2" which looks better but the pipe rides about 3/4" lower but is passable and still has clearance from burning the fairing. You will see that the Akra Evo 2 pipe allows lots of adjustment in the rear being that it's only connected from the head and not through the middle. I will post pics of before and after tomorrow.