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post #41 of 56 (permalink) Old 01-11-2009, 11:42 AM
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Most people don't buy all their mods at once and keep those exact mods until the bike is gone. Let's keep this within the bounds of reality.
Yes they do. I bought the filter, then the exhaust, then the PCIII, then the velocity stacks, and still havnt had a custom tune, because most of the time it will run fine without one for an average street rider. Most people would be pretty stupid to get a pcIII, then get a custom tune immediately, knowing in the future they will add something else.
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well you seem to have some money saved up and want better performance.you also want to customize your bike. why not buy a turbo kit or pull the motor while its cold outside and upgrade the internals. youll gain valuable experience and have a blast
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just get the pc3 with a proper tune its not a waste of money
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post #44 of 56 (permalink) Old 01-12-2009, 08:08 AM
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Yes they do. I bought the filter, then the exhaust, then the PCIII, then the velocity stacks, and still havnt had a custom tune, because most of the time it will run fine without one for an average street rider. Most people would be pretty stupid to get a pcIII, then get a custom tune immediately, knowing in the future they will add something else.
Most educated people would say it's stupid to buy and install that many mods and not take advantage of them with a tune. DUDE... get that thing tuned and see what you've been missing!
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Most educated people would say it's stupid to buy and install that many mods and not take advantage of them with a tune. DUDE... get that thing tuned and see what you've been missing!
You think I'm tuning this thing with a TBR on it??? I have to first choose between a Akra and a Yoshimura TRC, THEN I will tune it. I have the money, just having a hard time deciding which exhaust.........
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Well here is a little technical info on the TRE for the K4/K5 600....

This bike has two groups of ignition maps. (a group is 4 maps, one for each cylinder) One group is used for gears 1st - 4th and the second group is for 5th-6th gear. Below is a comparison map between the two groups.




That is not a lot of difference.

Compare that to the difference between the 1st/2nd gear and 5th/6th gear ignition maps for the GSXR1000. (The 1000 has 3 groups )





In my mind the small amount of difference between maps would not offset the negative effects of running around with the ECU in 5th gear all the time. Also given the 600 has no top speed limiter the TRE seems kind of pointless for a 600.
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Holly sweet data Batman, what program is that?!? Is that the data from a Teka?

I know I'll get ribbed for this but I got the GIPro with built in ATRE. I can't tell a difference with it on or off so I leave it on. Love not having to count gears though.
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Holly sweet data Batman, what program is that?!? Is that the data from a Teka?

I know I'll get ribbed for this but I got the GIPro with built in ATRE. I can't tell a difference with it on or off so I leave it on. Love not having to count gears though.
It is an open source freeware Map viewing and editing program called RomRaider.

If you don't hang out on the GSXR1000 forum then you may not have heard that the first generation 32bit ECU for the GSXR 600/750/1000 have been hacked and downloaded and that you can now remap the ECUs with an inexpensive USB interface you can build yourself and free software.


https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207938


Right now only maps for the k5/k6 1000 are publicly available but that will change.
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Thanks a Million! I've heard of RomRaider before but only for cars with PROM or EEPROM chips. and as they've gone towards CAN-BUS systems in automotive I hadn't really thought about it much. This is something I'll look into. Thanks again.
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In my mind the small amount of difference between maps would not offset the negative effects of running around with the ECU in 5th gear all the time. Also given the 600 has no top speed limiter the TRE seems kind of pointless for a 600.
Great post, wish I understood it…lol. So what are the negative effects of running a TRE? Thanks.
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Nothing. It wont hurt your bike at all. There is a tre out that keeps the gear indicator normal.
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So what are the negative effects of running a TRE? Thanks.
Rougher cold starts
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Yea I am a post whore!!! I did a search and its the same shit you guys do to them to me.. You just run your mouths and talk trash instead of give any useful information.. At least there is one person on this site that pm me that is helping me out by letting me try his commander. See thats what we need out of this site is people to help. Not guys like Subee and that dude who just ruin it by talking trash.. Thats not really what this forums are for.. There supposed to be informative and not just people posting to get numbers like you guys.. Do a search is that the only help you offer. Casue if it is dont even type it in here just keep it to your self.
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This is like a year old



Fuckin 09s
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Also given the 600 has no top speed limiter the TRE seems kind of pointless for a 600.
all you needed, you might confuse them with the other words in your post.



dear lord, this thread is better then leno.

wasnt speedhealer or whatever that bs company who sold tres marketing them as performance enhancing products getting sued for false advertising.



this place should get conans spot at 11:30. specially the guys who brag like tough shit when they have parts on their bikes that do absolutely nothing for their bike and are proud of wasting money. or the ones who are to dumb to realize it.

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all you needed, you might confuse them with the other words in your post.



dear lord, this thread is better then leno.

wasnt speedhealer or whatever that bs company who sold tres marketing them as performance enhancing products getting sued for false advertising.



this place should get conans spot at 11:30. specially the guys who brag like tough shit when they have parts on their bikes that do absolutely nothing for their bike and are proud of wasting money. or the ones who are to dumb to realize it.


It would take me about 8 seconds with her doing that on my cack
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