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2017 1000R - Wheelie Control

So I have been looking for a while and I cant seem to find anything about the anti-wheelie system other than that it is tied to the TC system.

Seems the higher the level the more Anti Wheelie. I came up from the 750 (my first bike that was stolen... bastards) to the 1000 and pulled an accidental wheelie from opening it up a bit to much, scared the fuck out of myself, and now I drive it like a bitch.

Anyway, does anybody know how difficult it is to get the front up on the bike when Anti Wheelie is set to its maximum setting? I want to be able to learn the bike more and not be incredibly concerned with accelerating to hard since I have no idea how hard is to hard. Advice?



Also I replaced the stock exhaust pipe with a yoshi. Does the stock one have any value?

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My first question - how much riding experience do you have?

Doesn’t the 1000 have an A, B, and C mode you can play with? B and C tame down the throttle response. My ultimate recommendation is to go into an empty, large parking lot and practice braking and taking off in a safe, controlled manner. Practice, practice, practice. You shouldn’t be practicing in traffic. You should be confident in your handling of the bike, not fearful of it. That’s simply asking for trouble.

You could put it down n eBay and see if you get any bites... But you might have better luck turning it into a bird’s nest

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So I have been looking for a while and I cant seem to find anything about the anti-wheelie system other than that it is tied to the TC system.

Seems the higher the level the more Anti Wheelie. I came up from the 750 (my first bike that was stolen... bastards) to the 1000 and pulled an accidental wheelie from opening it up a bit to much, scared the fuck out of myself, and now I drive it like a bitch.

Anyway, does anybody know how difficult it is to get the front up on the bike when Anti Wheelie is set to its maximum setting? I want to be able to learn the bike more and not be incredibly concerned with accelerating to hard since I have no idea how hard is to hard. Advice?



Also I replaced the stock exhaust pipe with a yoshi. Does the stock one have any value?
the best setting and still have good power is 4-5 it will still come up but just inches.

no the stock pipe has almost no value. - if you have extended warranty you need to put it on if you have anything major repaired

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Re: 2017 1000R - Wheelie Control

Honestly not a crazy amount of experience. Maybe 2 years collectively. I bought the Liter bike with resale in mind at some point. Its not that i'm afraid of the bike in everyday riding. It is very comfortable and handles perfect for me.

There are the 3 drive modes. I will play around with them a bit. I am wondering what WOT would do on maximum TC/Anti Wheelie control (level 10) is on. Would the bike still want to come up or would that allow me to put it in the back of my mind and get to learn the limits of the bike.


There is no way I can take this bike to a parking lot and practice take offs. I would probably have a swat team on me in no time lol.


Birds nest it is

Thanks for the info boss

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Shit. I do have the extended warranty but am moving to Hawaii and its just not worth it to ship the damn thing. Blows
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Re: 2017 1000R - Wheelie Control

There once was a time when wheelie control was all in your right wrist. By the time you step up to a 1000 this shouldn't even be an issue. Bottom line. The electronics are not there to make up for your lack of skill and/or experience. Rolling the front end up under hard acceleration should not worry you at this point in your riding career but this is exactly what happens when you try to run before you can even walk. You should be well beyond that fear of an accidental wheelie. And for fuck's sake, there should be NO accidental wheelie. You should know when the wheel is going to leave the ground at all times and then it only becomes a matter of how long you want to leave it in the air.

I suggest going with a smaller bike and studying the basics first rather than limping around on your 1000 worried about whether you have the electronics set correctly to dumb it down for you. No one will fault you for actually trying to learn to ride with a bike more suitable to your skill level and experience.

I'd rather ride and control an Analog bike than ride and be controlled by a Digital one.
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Re: 2017 1000R - Wheelie Control

Accidental Wheelie?
Learn the limits of the bike?
Wondering what WOT would do?
I've got a question for those 3 quires, what gear are you in whilst exploring these limits?
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Re: 2017 1000R - Wheelie Control

All I want to know is what Anti Wheelie does. With Max Anti Wheelie will the front still lift WOT. Simple question.

I am aware that I do not know the limits of my bike, I feel Anti Wheelie will help me learn those limits. I went from a 750 to the 1K so obviously there is a learning curve in terms of more power available.

The accidental wheelie was due to having a passenger and forgetting about the weight in the back making the lift easier. Its not like I dont have throttle control.
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Re: 2017 1000R - Wheelie Control

Im still curios, what gear were you in to scare yourself so much, 1st, 2nd, 3rd?
I just want to know because there must be a quantum leap in power from a lowly
K4 or K5 1000
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So you bought a 1000.... Scared yourself by pulling a wheelie (which many do for fun)... Then want to ask a bunch of folks about how well the wheelie control works You literally bought a race replica with all the gadgets just to neuter it so you won’t shit your pants

If I were you, I wouldn’t be riding with a passenger whatsoever when you are already unconfident about your own ability to control the bike. If you need to rely on electronics to keep your wheels on the ground, I’m afraid this ride isn’t for you, my friend.
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Re: 2017 1000R - Wheelie Control

Wow. It's like you bought an airplane and are trying to figure out how to keep it from leaving the runway because you're afraid of heights. You absolutely should not be riding a big supersport. For your own sake, sell the bike please.
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There is no separate lift control (wheelie) on this bike like there is on the 2015+ R1. The higher levels of TC will result in less wheelie. I don’t know you from Adam, so I don’t care about your safety or riding skills. Just trying to answer your question. Which more people here should do imo.
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There is no separate lift control (wheelie) on this bike like there is on the 2015+ R1. The higher levels of TC will result in less wheelie. I donít know you from Adam, so I donít care about your safety or riding skills. Just trying to answer your question. Which more people here should do imo.
You should.
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I think you started the trolling.
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He actually answered the question at least in part. Pretty much every douchebag on here is talking about "oh you should not use it because its a 1K, get more experience, sell your bike, blah blah blah blah"

If that was the case the fucking TC and Anti Wheelie would not even exist for the bike in the first place. CLEARLY there is a reason for it and I wanted to know what peoples experiences are with it. I asked the question multiple times and hes pretty much the only person that even attempted to answer it.

People here must be incredibly bored to reply with such nonsense instead of answering a question that the entire point of this thread is to address.

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He actually answered the question at least in part. Pretty much every douchebag on here is talking about "oh you should not use it because its a 1K, get more experience, sell your bike, blah blah blah blah"

If that was the case the fucking TC and Anti Wheelie would not even exist for the bike in the first place. CLEARLY there is a reason for it and I wanted to know what peoples experiences are with it. I asked the question multiple times and hes pretty much the only person that even attempted to answer it.

People here must be incredibly bored to reply with such nonsense instead of answering a question that the entire point of this thread is to address.
It's all sales gimmicks aimed at poor riders. Turn it all off and just enjoy the bike and power.

Idiots don't realise that the throttle goes both ways.

Twisty a bit. Go slow

Twisty more. Go quicker

etc, etc, etc.
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No need to get upset. The people here have seen this story before. It doesn't always end well. Thats why we would like to see you with more experience before riding this bike especially with an innocent passenger. I think some track time, class time, and reading some books will help.
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Keep it on 10 tc and c mode should cut down the lift big time.

I've been riding on A mode with tc off. Front end gets light on hard acceleration but I exercise throttle control in the lower gears. I feel its very easy to control the bike without electronic aids. Sure, this machine can bite you on the ass if you exercise WOT in lower gears. It's all about riding lots and getting to know what your machine is capable of in a gradual and safe manor.
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