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Hi, yes I've run at ManCup several times. What would you like to know ?
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Hi, yes I've run at ManCup several times. What would you like to know ?
This is the first year I am planning on joining in on the fun. I have been to a couple of events as a spectator, but that is all. I am only racing in the Street E.T class this year. I just want to be sure there isn't any sort of pre registration or anything that I need to do before the first race next month.
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Mancup is a great group and you will have a blast. Both Street and Pro-ET will have full race each day..Saturday and Sunday. No pre-entry needed but get paid up and teched in early cause it will get real busy with bikes pouring in. You need a layard style ignition cutoff and basic safety equipment. No license needed, just sign the waiver. Try to pit where you can hear track PA for class calls.. Street ET rounds come and go quick.

Good luck ! Have fun
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Mancup is a great group and you will have a blast. Both Street and Pro-ET will have full race each day..Saturday and Sunday. No pre-entry needed but get paid up and teched in early cause it will get real busy with bikes pouring in. You need a layard style ignition cutoff and basic safety equipment. No license needed, just sign the waiver. Try to pit where you can hear track PA for class calls.. Street ET rounds come and go quick.

Good luck ! Have fun
Thank you for that info. It seems like a very well put together event. I do not have a lanyard style kill switch. Guess I need to grab one of those before going. We are planning on going up Friday morning to hopefully grab a spot as early as possible. We are going to try and pack 2 bikes into one trailer(my dad's ZX14 and mine), so hopefully we can get that down to only need one spot. Good tip on parking close to a speaker.
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Re: Manufacturer's Cup

I may be wrong about needing the lanyard kill requirement. Went to ManCup site and checked the rules again and don't see mention of it there or in the general rules section. To be sure, call Jay at MRE or Dave at Schnitz and confirm. MPS makes them if you end up needing one.

Here's the rules for street ET copied from the site. Good luck, Have fun !

STREET ET
Updated 2/20/16

CLASS REQUIREMENTS

CLASS DESCRIPTION: Street E.T. is open to street legal bikes only. The class is run in an E.T. bracket racing format and is a great class for the novice racer to gain valuable racing experience. Double entering a class will no longer be allowed in any class. A rider can not ride the same, nor a different, bike in one class. Nominal increases to both the entry fees and the purses will be implemented. Specific details of such will be announced upon finalization.

DESIGNATION: The class designation is S/ET. All entrants must display this designation on both sides of their motorcycle by their bike number.

FORMAT: This is a 1/4 mile E.T. bracket class run on a .500 full tree. This is an all run field. All bikes must be 18.99 & quicker.

Maximum dial-in permitted 18.99.

POINTS

click here Points System & Caculations to see how points are scored

This class will be a points class at all MANUFACTURERS CUP events.

It will be the riders responsibility to monitor his or hers points earnings after every event. All requests for points adjustments must be made in writing within thirty days of the points posting for the event in question on all events EXCEPT the Finals. For the Finals ONLY, all requests for points adjustments, again, must be made in writing and within TEN days of the points being posted. Please understand the Man Cup will strive to keep the points tabulations for all classes accurately and correctly and we do hope by you monitoring your own points earnings that any errors or miscalculations can be corrected in a timely fashion.

Buybacks:

The buyback process will be replaced. A more simple and straightforward approach will replace it. ALL first round losers will automatically advance back into the second round. With the completion of the second, and all subsequent elimination rounds thereafter, upon losing, every rider will be out of competition.

The points earnings will change to reflect the updates made to the buyback process. All riders will now earn 21 points for entry, tech, first and second round of elimination rounds regardless of performance. This is up from 11 points awarded for entry and a minimum of 0, with a maximum of 20 additional round points through round two, contingent if a rider bought back or not. Rounds won points will remain unchanged at 10 per round but will begin accrual in the 3rd round and beyond. Winner and runner-up bonus points are also unchanged.



GENERAL: A rider may only run one bike in this class, and that bike may only be entered one time in this class.

Sunday Only Entry

Elimination of the Sunday morning time trial. Sunday morning will begin with the first round of ET eliminations. There will be a very quick clean-up time run for any SUNDAY ONLY entry, eligible only to a bike and/or rider who has not been down the track at all at any point prior. the elimination process will begin directly behind the clean-up time run.

BRAKES: Front and rear brakes are mandatory and must be in safe operating condition.

CHAIN GUARDS: Chain guards are required on all entries.

ELECTRICAL: 2-steps, delay boxes and electronic throttle stops are prohibited. Delay boxes and electronic throttle stops are not permitted on the motorcycle, they must be disconnected and removed.

LIGHTS: All motorcycles must have a functional OEM headlight or aftermarket headlight.

CLUTCH: Aftermarket slider clutches prohibited. Engine driven (MTC Gen II, Hayes, Rock, etc…) lockup clutches now prohibited along with aftermarket slider clutches. Wheel driven lockup clutches (MTC, MRE, Karata, etc) will continue to remain legal. All engine-driven lockup and aftermarket slider clutch entries will now have to compete in MPS Pro ET . Street ET is an entry level class. These drag race specific engine drive lockup and aftermarket slider clutches need now to compete in Pro ET . Bike equipped with an OEM slider (Honda 750 Automatic, etc…) clutch may retain the use of it in Street ET.
Updates to the clutch rule in Street ET . Engine driven (MTC Gen II, Hayes, Rock, etc…) lockup clutches will no longer be allowed along with aftermarket slider clutches. Wheel driven lockup clutches will remain legal. All engine-driven lockup and slider clutch entries will now have to compete in MPS Pro ET . Street ET is an entry level class and these high end, drag race specific clutches need to be moved to the higher level of competition found in MPS Pro ET .

TIRES: DOT street tires only are permitted. All tires must have visible tread. DOT slicks are not permitted.

WHEELIE BARS: Wheelie bars are prohibited.

GROUND CLEARANCE: The motorcycle must have a minimum of 2” ground clearance with rider sitting on the bike. Bikes equipped with a billet flat oil pan (not cast) or a wheelie bar are exempt from the 2″ ground clearance check.

GENERAL SAFETY: All riders must have a SNELL 95 or higher full face helmet, shoes above the ankle, leather gloves, and a leather jacket. Any rider running faster than 10.99 must also have leather pants. Pants and jacket are not required to be zipped together. Nylon or textile jackets and pants are not permitted, even if they have pads. All jackets and pants must be made of 100% leather.

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Well, my friend Spooky Markham says lanyard kill is required for all classes including street ET. He said many just attach lanyard to the flip switch on the bars and that is all tech inspector needs to see...or buy the purpose built kill from MPS and others.
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Well, my friend Spooky Markham says lanyard kill is required for all classes including street ET. He said many just attach lanyard to the flip switch on the bars and that is all tech inspector needs to see...or buy the purpose built kill from MPS and others.
Thank you for checking for me. I will probably order the one that MPS offers. Side note, but that is cool you know Spooky. I have been a fan of his for a while now. Him and Dustin Lee are always tough competitors.
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Well, my friend Spooky Markham says lanyard kill is required for all classes including street ET. He said many just attach lanyard to the flip switch on the bars and that is all tech inspector needs to see...or buy the purpose built kill from MPS and others.
Can you tell me the buy back process for the ET classes? The website states that each racer that is put out in the first round gets automatic buy back into the 2nd round. Can you tell me if this is accurate or not? The last time that was updated on their website was 2015, so I just want to double check.
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Can you tell me the buy back process for the ET classes? The website states that each racer that is put out in the first round gets automatic buy back into the 2nd round. Can you tell me if this is accurate or not? The last time that was updated on their website was 2015, so I just want to double check.
Yes sir, I believe 2015 is when they made that change in S/ET.. So, first round basically a test run as winners and losers both come back for 2nd' round.. If you lose first round you don't pay anything extra to come back around. I doubt that they have or will change that. Also, each day, (Sat & Sun) is a separate full race program for both S/ET and Pro ET.. Have to buy tech card for each day if you want to run both..

Wish I could make it but dealing with wife's health issues right now.

Good Luck and go get 'em !
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Yes sir, I believe 2015 is when they made that change in S/ET.. So, first round basically a test run as winners and losers both come back for 2nd' round.. If you lose first round you don't pay anything extra to come back around. I doubt that they have or will change that. Also, each day, (Sat & Sun) is a separate full race program for both S/ET and Pro ET.. Have to buy tech card for each day if you want to run both..

Wish I could make it but dealing with wife's health issues right now.

Good Luck and go get 'em !
Thank you for letting me know. I thought that was still the case, but I wasn't positive. Thank you for answering my questions concerning the ManCup over the last couple of weeks. You have definitely helped me out.

I really hate to hear that about your wife. I hope it is nothing serious.

Hopefully I will see you at an event soon!
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Yes sir, I believe 2015 is when they made that change in S/ET.. So, first round basically a test run as winners and losers both come back for 2nd' round.. If you lose first round you don't pay anything extra to come back around. I doubt that they have or will change that. Also, each day, (Sat & Sun) is a separate full race program for both S/ET and Pro ET.. Have to buy tech card for each day if you want to run both..

Wish I could make it but dealing with wife's health issues right now.

Good Luck and go get 'em !
Just wanted to follow up after the first ManCup event that took place. My dad and myself had an absolute blast. We ending up testing on Friday, getting rained out on Saturday, and eliminations on Sunday. I got put out in round 2 and my dad in round 3, but it was still a ton of fun and we will be planning on going to the rest of the events for this year.
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Just wanted to follow up after the first ManCup event that took place. My dad and myself had an absolute blast. We ending up testing on Friday, getting rained out on Saturday, and eliminations on Sunday. I got put out in round 2 and my dad in round 3, but it was still a ton of fun and we will be planning on going to the rest of the events for this year.
Excellent ! Glad you guys were able to attend and had good time. Good luck with the season and if I can make any will look you guys up for sure. Maybe dragway 42 in July if I can get going on the 600.

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