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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-29-2017, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
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Tire warmer protocol

So I scored a set of used Chicken Hawk Classic Standard warmers that were used for three days before a different manufacturer gave this guy a sponsorship. $100 for the set!

I've never used warmers before and I'm looking for some advise on how to use them to maximize my tire life. I've seen a lot of guys come off the track and immediately throw the warmers on like a blanket and then plug them in about 20 minutes later. I've seen guys let their tires sit for 15 minutes then throw the warmers on and plug them in, and I've seen guys who put the warmers on before they take their helmet and gloves off.

Their website doesn't have any manual downloads and all I see is that they need a 45 minute warm up time. They also state normal operating temp is 145-185 and their warmers are set to about 175. I guess some of it depends on the tire temp when you come off track. Anything you experienced guys can offer will help shorten my learning curve.


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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-29-2017, 07:02 PM
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Re: Tire warmer protocol

I would imagine keeping them at operating temperatures and avoiding heat cycling the rubber would be the main factor. Over this past year, I threw the warmers on as soon as I had the bike on the stands. Of those who waited, it seemed more like they weren't in a hurry to apply them back on or were busy talking. Although if it some do it deliberately, I'd also like to know why. I'll be interested to see input on this considering I'm certainly not an expert!

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Re: Tire warmer protocol

In between sessions and/or races just keep the warmers on. Your tires won't get mad at you. Simple.

I ran Chicken Hawk as well and they are great. Remember, the idea is for the bike to be ready to go hard on the first lap. Not sure if there is any point in having warmers though if you're only doing trackdays.

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Remember, the idea is for the bike to be ready to go hard on the first lap. Not sure if there is any point in having warmers though if you're only doing trackdays.
You save money when you use warmers because tires last longer, you're less likely going to crash. You also save valuable track time because you don't have to warm up the tires.

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"I've never used warmers before and I'm looking for some advise on how to use them to maximize my tire life."
When I return to pit I put the bike on stands, remove helmet and gloves, warmers on and plug them in.
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Re: Tire warmer protocol

I could throw out theories all day long, but conjecture won't help. I'm running Dunlop Q3 currently. Tire longevity is my main goal, but going out in the A group and running a warmup lap causes a speed differential I'm not entirely comfortable with. My home track just got resurfaced, so that's going to help a lot too, but I was wearing out a rear in one day. I'm really hoping that's mostly due to cold tearing. I dropped some cash into the suspension and had it setup by Matt Carr over the course of two days so I don't believe it's excessive wear due to poor setup.

I've also done some reading since my initial post. Basically what I'm seeing is "get them hot, keep them hot". If the warmers have a thermostat for 175, it's pretty simple.


Luckily, my home track has electric available.... I'll need to get a generator if I go anywhere else this year.


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Re: Tire warmer protocol

I also ran Q3s last year. My first two track days were relatively slow so tire wear wasn't even a concern. My 3rd day demolished them when I picked up the pace which made a huge difference. By the 4th day, although they still had rubber left to use, I think that they had been over heated and/or been heat cycled too many times. They became unpredictable and made me nervous, especially the front. This unfortunately cut my day short. I begin using warmers on the 3rd day of use (borrowed from my new friend I've made) who recommended them base on the aggressive tire wear. I've since bought the GPA211s, but I can't help but wonder if using warmers on the Q3s would help with tire life too. I'll call Dunlop today and see if they may have any input on the matter.


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That looks suspiciously identical to the Honda ES2000i......
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Re: Tire warmer protocol

IMO, waste of time on street tires.

I put my warmers on at 7:30am, and they're on high whenever they're on the bike, unless there's a big gap between races (3+ hours)
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I use them for my daily commute.
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