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Those who have warned us newbies in advance... This sport is without a doubt... A money pit

In all reality, it's not that expensive... But it sure is a stick to the nuts up front! My wife is the best though. I've let her spend whatever she wants on decorating the house and making it a nice home for us, now she's letting me dump money into track days in full support of my aspiration to race. It'll be easier when our girls aren't itty bitty, but we're making it work.

I'm headed up north an hour or so to shop for trailers on Friday. I've found many deals on 5x8 enclosed trailers for $2,000 new. Already have plans to set it up with. For the rest of the supplies and gear I've ordered, it's already on the way. I just have to play the waiting game and dick around with my other two projects in the garage. Depending when everything gets here I'll be heading out to TWS again on the 30th. I won't be paying $75 like the first track day I did, but at least they offer military discount

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If you are planning on racing, get a 6'x10'.

And you have no idea how much more expensive racing is than track days.
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Some of my working buddies and others, sometimes comment about how expensive track days must be...... I'm an Instructor and did 21 days last year. It is, to some extent, but I don't hunt, fish, golf, do other sports, or really have other hobbies, other than casual shooting on occasion. It also helps that my wife is an Instructor and loves track days almost as much as I do. I definitely could not have done this much when I was younger and my kids were younger, but they are grown, and have been for some time, so it's easier.

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Yeah, track days and coaching are inexpensive really.

Like I said, the jump to racing is when shit gets really pricey, especially if you want to run up front.
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Average trackday for me is entry, food, and a rear tire. My local track is really hard on tires. A smooth track, I could probably get 2 days out of a rear. Pretty much $300-$400 a day. If I have to travel, it's an easy $500-$600 a day. My goal is 5-7 days. But, the transmission on my SUV decided that I needed a new vehicle, so the monthly budget may disagree. A friend of mine races and says it's $2000-$2500 for a weekend of racing and that's if he doesn't go down.


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Average trackday for me is entry, food, and a rear tire. My local track is really hard on tires. A smooth track, I could probably get 2 days out of a rear. Pretty much $300-$400 a day. If I have to travel, it's an easy $500-$600 a day. My goal is 5-7 days. But, the transmission on my SUV decided that I needed a new vehicle, so the monthly budget may disagree. A friend of mine races and says it's $2000-$2500 for a weekend of racing and that's if he doesn't go down.
I knew a few guys who were chasing Expert championships, and they had $40,000-$50,000 budgets for the season.

My budget was $25,000 for the season, which averaged out to be around $1,200/weekend. I ran pump gas though, so that saved me some money, and towards the end of the year I slept at the track, which saved me money as well.

I think Bob (It's_Just_Bob on here) was averaging like $800/weekend, so figure around $1,000/weekend if you want to race and be competitive.

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I knew a few guys who were chasing Expert championships, and they had $40,000-$50,000 budgets for the season.

My budget was $25,000 for the season, which averaged out to be around $1,200/weekend. I ran pump gas though, so that saved me some money, and towards the end of the year I slept at the track, which saved me money as well.

I think Bob (It's_Just_Bob on here) was averaging like $800/weekend, so figure around $1,000/weekend if you want to race and be competitive.
Bobby (Robert Terando) raced AMA. Every step up in class is another step up in expense. If you google his name and RideApart, you can see the custom chassis he built for his 484. Scrapped the whole front end and starting over. He's convinced the telescopic fork is past.
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Good point. Track days aren't that expensive - no clue about racing... I don't foresee myself racing until about 4-5 years when the kids are older. Then the question always rises, will I be able to complete a full season without deploying for 6+ months? I'd very much like to turn it into a reality, but we'll see what life says about it.

@Anthony D Why the 6x10? I'm not sure what else I'll need room for, so thanks for the heads up
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Tools, generators, spare wheels, tires, and spare parts. A 5'x8' fills up real quick...
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Didn't think of having spares for everything too, I see what you mean now
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Yup. After you crash and bend a footpeg or lever, and don't have a spare, and it ruins the rest of your track day making it a waste of money, you start to stock up on spares of everything.
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Can't argue there. I suppose a small work bench would come in handy at some point too. Turns out I'm going out to look today.
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Track days are expensive, but speeding tickets are worse!

They do make you soooooo much better at riding, fully think they're worth it If you have a sportsbike. Actually they're what you're supposed to be doing with a sportsbike!

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Was already racing when I had my first two kids, they just came along to the track like nothing ever changed. But hey that was the 80's and things were different at the track then. You still travel the same to a given track burn the same amount of gas, eat the same amount of food ect, should be maintaining your bike the same. Besides the need for new tires all the time I think day to day track days and racing are not that far off saying your on a full prepared mount. Its just racing you will be on track way way more so the cost rises exponential. You have to make the races if you want to go spend a week at the GNF and theres nothing better than that.

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Zipties, lots of Zipties. You could always look into endurance racing, given the seat time I think it's the best bang for the buck. Then again down here in TX we luck out in having cheap track days (COTA excluded) If you sprint, get fast quick and go looking for sponsors. It's all about having fun in the end, track day or race weekend your on the bike.
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Zipties, lots of Zipties. You could always look into endurance racing, given the seat time I think it's the best bang for the buck. Then again down here in TX we luck out in having cheap track days (COTA excluded) If you sprint, get fast quick and go looking for sponsors. It's all about having fun in the end, track day or race weekend your on the bike.
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I'd like to try a little of everything and see what I like. I never thought about the endurance racing... Never knew much about it TBH.
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Was already racing when I had my first two kids, they just came along to the track like nothing ever changed. But hey that was the 80's and things were different at the track then. You still travel the same to a given track burn the same amount of gas, eat the same amount of food ect, should be maintaining your bike the same. Besides the need for new tires all the time I think day to day track days and racing are not that far off saying your on a full prepared mount. Its just racing you will be on track way way more so the cost rises exponential. You have to make the races if you want to go spend a week at the GNF and theres nothing better than that.
Actually, it would increase geometrically....
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I'd say go for a 6 x 12 double axle trailer if you can afford it. Double axle for more highway stability if you're going to take the trailer route. Or you can do like I did, kill 2 birds with one stone and buy a Chevy Astro Van. My racebike, tools, stands, spares, and gear fit in the van no problem. And if you end up not finding lodging (as has happened to me a few times) you can still always sleep in the thing. I remember a few guys who would actually keep 2 bikes in the back of their Astro with all the extras. Plus you can load and unload the bike by yourself.

Like Ant, I had to race on a budget and it still was hands down the most expensive activity I've ever done in my life. I couldn't afford to do many track days AND race (only done 2 track days in my life) so most of my track time came in practices before an actual race. I just dove into racing so to speak. My attitude was "fuck it, I'm going for it" and I'm so glad I did. If you can swing it tater just go for it sooner rather than later. You never know, you just might end up hanging some trophies up.

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Or, you can have stacks of these just sitting on a shelf in your garage...
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I'd say go for a 6 x 12 double axle trailer if you can afford it. Double axle for more highway stability if you're going to take the trailer route. Or you can do like I did, kill 2 birds with one stone and buy a Chevy Astro Van. My racebike, tools, stands, spares, and gear fit in the van no problem. And if you end up not finding lodging (as has happened to me a few times) you can still always sleep in the thing. I remember a few guys who would actually keep 2 bikes in the back of their Astro with all the extras. Plus you can load and unload the bike by yourself.

Like Ant, I had to race on a budget and it still was hands down the most expensive activity I've ever done in my life. I couldn't afford to do many track days AND race (only done 2 track days in my life) so most of my track time came in practices before an actual race. I just dove into racing so to speak. My attitude was "fuck it, I'm going for it" and I'm so glad I did. If you can swing it tater just go for it sooner rather than later. You never know, you just might end up hanging some trophies up.

Thanks for the info! I'm bored at work just dicking around with nothing to do... I've begun reading the CMRA Rule book to familiarize myself with it.


I say 4-5 years before I start racing because I have no idea how long it will take me to get my license through CMRA. In order to do so I need to reach the advanced group then take the CMRA Licensing Course. Right now it feels like reaching the advanced group is an awful ways away, but I'm my worst critic. I'd always like to think that it would only take a year to reach that level I'm planning on doing an additional 4-5 track days this year and more if my schedule will allow.


Made a few calls yesterday. I'm going to break the bank on a 6x10 single axel, fold down ramp/door, and side door for $2600. It's a Haul Mark, I've heard many good things about them. I always thought the van was a bad ass idea when you first brought it up! This will be easier for the family since my wife wants to tag along most times. Need room for the kid and dogs lol. The times they don't come I plan on bringing a cot and sleeping in the trailer itself, maybe get a fan for these upcoming warm summer nights.

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