Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: ex Cairns, now Sydney, Australia
Motorcycle: L3.1k NOW L6.1k
Re: Upshifting without clutch - good - bad - ugly
LOL...I'd like to hear how many people can clutchless shift down in all gears from 6 to 1st without destroying their dogs.
With regard to down shifting you will find when doing left and right cornering in tight canyon carving..the load does not allow you shift down quickly, especially going into to a vanishing point with a tight apex. In this case instead of just as you roll off and down shift, YOU HAVE TO QUICKLY WHILE IN GEAR, BLIP TO RAISE THE REVS MOMENTARILY, ROLL OFF, CHANGE DOWN. This happens very, very quickly in particular when you are moving quickly through the turns to stay smooth, not charging at them.
In other words taking to the apex without the need for trail braking.
You will also crunch your gears going down if you approach say a turn with a neutral throttle and then try to roll off while changing down...need to have load through acceleration and take that off when you roll off to allow the smooth change down.
Just to be clear, the roll off is not a pronounced effort... it only happens in a milli-second. If you are unsure how to effect proper clutchless shifting techniques, go to a motocross track and listen, observe and learn. Then go to a paddock with a motocross bike and have fun until you get the idea.
Better to get these skills learnt on a dirt bike than on the road IMHO.
When I was a kid and riding moto cross, the first thing you learned about constant mesh gear boxes is how to manipulate them up or down shifting in tight turns with your ass hanging out in a full slide. No clutch just balls on tank, knees tight and throttle pinned gearing up or down depending on the berm and dirt cover.
FWIW...this is just an opinion of how I do things...means nothing...without the experience that some of the racers on here would have.