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Brakes locking up when riding? New LEVERS? Read here PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!!

So, I am tired of seeing these threads. It is scary

Do not buy cheap ebay brake levers people!!!!

Especially the ones that look like Pazzos and CRGs and the like.

They may make your brakes lock up while riding, and cause a crash. They do so any of three ways.

Most common, the guide hole where the master cylinder plunger sits is too shallow. This holds the brakes on ever so slightly constantly. This causes the brake fluid temps to rise, and the pads to over heat, to the point everything swells and locks up.

Another way they do it is some of them either dont have a pivot bushing at all, or the pivot bushing hole is the wrong size. The hole where the pivot bolt goes galls up over time, and the lever begins to stick, causing the same issue as above

And thirdly, they use crappy billet alluminum. No, Not all billet is the same quality. Often their has voids and flaws in it, or it is not even billet at all but rather a cheap casting. These cheap materials often break or crack at the pivot, and can cause the lever to fall off completely during normal use, or jam and lock up the brakes. Sometimes they break at the adjuster, sometimes in the middle

Here are just the few threads I can find quickly about it if you dont believe me. I am sure there are more.

I often wonder how many people have DIED!!!! because their brakes locked up on the freeway or something, but they were not around to tell anyone what caused it.

Please. Stop. Dont buy them.

If you cant afford quality aftermarket levers, get quality OEM replacements. Lockhart Phillips sells some. Motion Pro sells some. I am sure there are others. DO NOT get the cheap ebay levers. Please.

1: Post 14 https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

2: https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

3:Post ten is an installation issue, but similar https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

4: https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

5: post 30 https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

6: post 5 https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

7: Same issue, caused by simply wrong lever installed https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking leading to this thread on another forum http://www.zxforums.com/forums/zx-6r...ng-brakes.html

8:https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=292738

9: https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271894

10: some accounts in here https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

11: post 3 https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

12: post 5 https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...brakes+locking

13: https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthr...782&highlight=


Ok.......... enough. I am tired of searching. That is only halfway through page 3, of a search result that has 5 pages. And that is mostly only on THIS ONE FORUM, let alone other forums out there that people are not members of this one. And that is only with the proper spelling of "Brake" and not searching "break" which I am sure I could find many more as well.

Do not buy cheap chinese levers!!!!!!





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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-27-2012, 06:13 PM
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Re: Brakes locking up when riding? New LEVERS? Read here PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Thank the lord i'm too broke to even buy cheap chinese levers

Good info joe!
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Thanks Joe, this'll come in handy for plenty of people later on.
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Re: Brakes locking up when riding? New LEVERS? Read here PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Yep thx a bunch deleted that watch list item from ebay because of this!
Where can on get quality levers from? I am sure i could take some hours to find out but one of you probably knows right off the top of your head. I've only had brand new bikes this is my first used bike and I do not like stealership prices!
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Yep thx a bunch deleted that watch list item from ebay because of this!
Where can on get quality levers from? I am sure i could take some hours to find out but one of you probably knows right off the top of your head. I've only had brand new bikes this is my first used bike and I do not like stealership prices!
Motomummy is very good with selection & prices, he also has free shipping.

https://www.motomummy.com/store/home.php
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LOL I just did, well new right side for me.. yay... woulda been nice to know.
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Thanks man was just about to buy two sets. Thanks for the heads up, couldnt tell you how much I appreciate this thread
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Re: Brakes locking up when riding? New LEVERS? Read here PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!

I was searching for similar problems and came across this thread.

I installed Ebay levers and noticed the lever slightly compressing the plunger while at rest.

It was past the return policy, so I ground it down... keeping the same shape.

Now everything is good to go.

Good information will save lives, best to purchase quality products.

If you're going to buy them anyways, get a dremel or a grinder and have at it. Round the sharp edges and polish it up.
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Good advice...
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Good advice...
Shitty advice, if you're refering to jnick. Dremeling the bad casting for the plunger will not matter when the levers seizes when pulled from the lack of a bearing, or snaps at the pivot from poor casting. Eye-balling one machining error does fix it, let alone all the other piss poor production errors.
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Re: Brakes locking up when riding? New LEVERS? Read here PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Funny the people who think the Chinese billets are fine.

Ohlins has a recalled right now for sub par billets and cross machining causing stress fractures in a damper mount.

If a high end company with impeccable quality control can get bad billet.... the Chinese knockoffs with zero qc damn sure can



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Re: Brakes locking up when riding? New LEVERS? Read here PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!

I was lucky for two years with yani shinkis but with my TLR, I am running ASV. amazing feel and top-notch fit/finish.

A good friend of mine was running cheap levers (came with the bike when purchased) and his front wheel locked up on him at highway speeds resulting in just a totaled motorcycle.
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I was lucky for two years with yani shinkis but with my TLR, I am running ASV. amazing feel and top-notch fit/finish.

A good friend of mine was running cheap levers (came with the bike when purchased) and his front wheel locked up on him at highway speeds resulting in just a totaled motorcycle.
I've wondered, how many people have they killed that we don't know about. Nobody would check a brake lever post crash, and once cooled they let go



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What about OEM replacement levers? Just curious how other brands such as BikeMasters are?
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What about OEM replacement levers? Just curious how other brands such as BikeMasters are?
Give these guys a call to see what they think.

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com...l.bok?no=15435
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Give these guys a call to see what they think.

http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com...l.bok?no=15435
My guess is since they sell the product they will say it's not terrible.
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My buddy was having this issue or his L2 750. Dealer couldn't figure out what it was. Didn't know if it was MC, new core Moto brake lines, or what. After 2 weeks of trying to figure out what the issue was, they finally figured it out. When my friend was installing his core Moto brake lines, he accidently dropped his front brake lever on the ground. When this happened it actually bent the little arm on the stock lever that almost wraps around MC. This was causing brake to slightly stay on, building pressure and eventually locking up.
This happened twice while riding w him. We were doing about 30mph thru town when he said he felt bike slowing down and he wasn't on brakes. All of a sudden I see the bike endo alittle and stop. So I'm like what the heck, he said brakes just locked up and bike wouldn't move. Thank god he had a wrench on him so we cracked banjo bolt at MC to release the pressure and brake fluid squirted out. This released brakes and pressure within lines. This happened once more before taking it to shop. So, just be careful not only can bad levers cause brakes to lock up, a bent one can too...


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There is actually a factory recall on the front master cylinder from 04+ 600,750 & 1000's
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There is actually a factory recall on the front master cylinder from 04+ 600,750 & 1000's
Really? Wow.... nobody here knew that!!!!!

/sarcasm lol

That has NOTHING to do with this thread. Nothing.



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Forgot to add: this can also effect your clutch as well. The levers could be too long/short where it contacts the clutch MC causing slippage. Ask how I know.
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