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post #21 of 371 (permalink) Old 11-16-2010, 05:59 AM Thread Starter
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Interesting write up. I will try this method when I get my new (old) 600 k1. When you say:



I am a little confused, so to clarify, you open the bleeder just a fraction so there is resistance to pull the brake lever, and then you just pump away without opening/closing the nipple?(while topping up the reserviour of course)

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Yes. Exactly. As long as you have the teflon tape on the threads, and the hose on the nipple, there is no reason to close the nipple every time. The reason the "old fashion" way requires closing the nipple is to avoid introducing air into the system when releasing the lever. That cant happen with this method.



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post #22 of 371 (permalink) Old 11-16-2010, 07:51 AM
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Or, just buy speed bleeders...... but why buy something that you don't have to.
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Ok thanks for clearing that up joe have a good one
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Re: Brake bleeding problems? Look here, fail proof bleeding

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The bleeder works by pressing on a seat when you screw it down. If the teflon gets into the seat (the cone shaped part inside the bleeder) it can cause them to leak ever so slightly. Make sure to use only enough that it covers the threads, but not so much that it will get into the seat area
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MityVacs basically suck, and rarely get it done as well as a good bleeding can. It might be good enough for street use, but track use I have never had a mity vac provide fade free bleeding
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and i close the bleeders wile the mity-vac is still under vacuum. if you have a vacuum on the system and pull the hose off then, well, you are going to suck air into the bleeder. think about it.

i remove the bleeder screw, and teflon tape the threads. re install the screw, and i just loosen the bleeder screw a 1/4 turn with an 8mm box wrench and then zip-tie (small zip ties) a clear hose to the bleeder nipple. i leave the wrench on the bleeder screw. pull a vacuum...then i close the bleeder screw wile still pulling a slight vacuum. no air.
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Re: Brake bleeding problems? Look here, fail proof bleeding

Tried many different variations of how to use the mityvac.

Still prefer my variation of old school bleeding bar none.



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Tried many different variations of how to use the mityvac.

Still prefer my variation of old school bleeding bar none.
theres nothing wrong with your method, but i feel that the mity-vac is much easier and i have never had an issue.

how about a pressure bleeder? do they make an attachment for motorcycle reservoirs?
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theres nothing wrong with your method, but i feel that the mity-vac is much easier and i have never had an issue.

how about a pressure bleeder? do they make an attachment for motorcycle reservoirs?



I also, as stated, prefer to run an entire rreservoir through each nipple, or close to it, through when I do bleed....... keeps fluid fresh, and the bottle is garbage once opened anyway so might as well use it all.

Mityvac catch bottle is not large enough for that



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Thanks for the good write up Joe
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Best $3 you can spend on your brakes. One tiny bottle was more than enough to completely flush the fronts and rear.
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Re: Brake bleeding problems? Look here, fail proof bleeding

So can you just keep the teflon tape on the threads permanently, or do you change it every time?

I was also wondering, when you said attach the hose to the bleeders, does this mean run 3 hoses at once from each bleeder to the catch bottle and then run through the process?

Thanks for the help, I've always done it with the traditional method -- excited to try this out.
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I leave the teflon in, but when it gets "loose" feeling, I clean it off and replace it. I do my brakes pretty damn often, so it is way more often for me than it would be for most.

As for the hoses, you can run three at once, or just move the setup.

If you move the setup though, be aware that brake fluid is corrosive, so be careful not to spill it, or drip it, and if you do clean it up ASAP.



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Right on, appreciate the help man.
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Performed this to my bike today. Excellent way to get this done and now that the tape is on there, next time will be a breeze.
Joe, when you remove the bleeder, what do you plug the hole with while you put the tape on the threads? How often do you change the tape?
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I change the tape when the bleeder starts to feel loose again.

when I remove the bleeder nipple, I use some paper towels to soak up the fairly small amount of fluid that seeps out. Not much really is going to come out while you put the tape on there usually. It is kindof like holding your thumb over a straw with fluid in it. It wont come out.



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Thanks for the write up. Probably saved me a lot of time.
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Re: Brake bleeding problems? Look here, fail proof bleeding

great write up and looking forward to doing this in the future. What are you running for pads/calipers? (stock/aftermarket?)
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Steel braided lines, and Carbone Loraine SBK5 pads (although OEM pads were surprisingly good).

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Did this today. and I have the firmest brake lever ever legit..
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Yup this is absolutely the best way to bleed brakes. Perfect result every time and is stupid simple. I mean a nutless monkey could do this.
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How much new fluid do you actually go threw by using this method to bleed?
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