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Looking for a pistolgrip full length stock

I gave my dad a Mossberg 18" Cruiser pump years ago. He can barely stand without his walker anymore so he asked me to take the gun back out of his place. I'm wondering if you guys have an opinion on a decent full length stock with a pistol grip. I don't care for the pistol grip on it's own.
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Re: Looking for a pistolgrip full length stock

This is what I have on my 870. Really nice. Can get an adjustable cheek riser also.


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This is what I have on my 870. Really nice. Can get an adjustable cheek riser also.


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Thanks, that's exactly what I was thinking of, that's a good price too. So you are happy with the quality? I'm also needing a new safety for it, from what I've been reading it looks like EVERYONES Mossy safety breaks! I saw one on Brownells that looked nice, it's ramped up a little higher than stock. It's strange that the gun has very limited use & to work the safety you can almost strip the skin off your thumb it's so hard to move. I'm going to pull it apart tonight, I sprayed a bunch of Break-free in it last night & it didn't change anything.
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Re: Looking for a pistolgrip full length stock

I was a weapons specialist In the army so I usually mod the stuff I have to work better. Adjustable trigger pull, recoil rate, and stuff like that. Not something you should do if you don't know what your doing though. I havnt torn into a Mossberg In years so can't help you with that. But weapons in general are all the same. If your going to tear into it make sure you have some jewlers polish on hand. Then polish the crap out of the safety mechanism. It will actuate better and the lube will be able to penitrate the metal better giving you an overall better action on it.

The stock isn't bad at all. It has held up for me with some pretty serious use. The tactical shotgun I have it on (Remington 870 3" magnum) is the weapon I use when competing in USPSA 3 gun. It has been banged, abused, and still keeps putting rounds down range.

I do recommend the cheek riser. The stock is slightly angled to mate up with the receiver. The cheek riser let's you address the weapon in the same manner each time allowing for increased accuracy. Then again if your just going to have it for a SHTF home defender, accuracy isn't all that important.

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I was a weapons specialist In the army so I usually mod the stuff I have to work better. Adjustable trigger pull, recoil rate, and stuff like that. Not something you should do if you don't know what your doing though. I havnt torn into a Mossberg In years so can't help you with that. But weapons in general are all the same. If your going to tear into it make sure you have some jewlers polish on hand. Then polish the crap out of the safety mechanism. It will actuate better and the lube will be able to penitrate the metal better giving you an overall better action on it.

The stock isn't bad at all. It has held up for me with some pretty serious use. The tactical shotgun I have it on (Remington 870 3" magnum) is the weapon I use when competing in USPSA 3 gun. It has been banged, abused, and still keeps putting rounds down range.

I do recommend the cheek riser. The stock is slightly angled to mate up with the receiver. The cheek riser let's you address the weapon in the same manner each time allowing for increased accuracy. Then again if your just going to have it for a SHTF home defender, accuracy isn't all that important.

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That's exactly what it's for, & playing at the range. I DID have to Google SHTF!
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That's exactly what it's for, & playing at the range. I DID have to Google SHTF!
Well the cheek riser is only a few bucks so even if your not using it for competition it makes you more accurate. You have an extended tube on it?

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Extended tube or not... doesn't matter. For home defense (loaded at all times incase of a SHTF scenario) load a slug first, then 2 rounds of 00 buck. Then some #7 shot.

That way the first shell You fire is a #7. Then they get bigger and bigger as you continue to fire.

Here's my thinking: someone is In your house late at night. The sound of the shot gun chambering a round (you charging it) and you yelling out "I'm going to kill you mother [email protected]*&" should make who ever is in your house shit themselves and run out. That is the best thing that can happen for both of you. AFTER DETERMINING FRIEND OR FOE. You may determine you have to fire on him, You most likely will be 7-15 feet away. The #7 shot is devastating but has a relatively low penetration. This way errant pellets do not go through walls and hurt others unintentionally. Now if that doesn't stop him. ... the 00 buck sure as hell Will. You have to be careful of over penetration but if your shooting 2x then the S HAS DEFINITELY HIT THE FAN (hense SHTF scenario). Now if he still isn't down. ... its because your the worst shot in the world and you deserve to get raped by him, or he has taken cover behind a wall or other obstacle. That's when you get to the slug. Just guess where he is on the other side of the obstacle and squeeze. If the slug doesn't get him the fragmentation from what ever you shot does. Remember to never fire all the rounds. Holding the weapon as usual, flip it over so the loading ramps (where you load it) is facing up. Start reloading. The tango (bad guy) will hear you reloading and may charge you. No worries because you still have the weapon pointed towards the threat and there is a shell In the chamber. It will fire up side down. Just squeeze the trigger. The tango thought you were empty but you had a backup plan.

One more thing. Get a tactical flash light that has a stobe feature. Mount it on your hand rail so that your left thumb can actuate the rear button. When you see the guy for the first time hit the light. You will be able to see fine but the tango is blind for 3-7 seconds. You can determine friend or foe and decide if you need to use deadly force.

I have cleared buildings (in iraq & Afghanistan) and use the light every time. Them being blinded gives me time to make a decision. Only a few seconds but I would rather be able to take a second or 2 to evaluate what I'm going to do than just kill someone on instinct. The light binding tangos have saved a few of their lives. We were able to take them down with out fireing a shot. That's ALWAYS the best outcome both for you and the tango.

All this advice is just that. ... advice. Don't anyone go and light me up for it. This is what my training and real word experiences have taught me. I figure. ... as soon as you make the decision to own the weapon. ... you should think out what you would do if you need to. If you don't think things through. ... then don't get the weapon.


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Re: Looking for a pistolgrip full length stock

Right now it's all stock. From what I read it doesn't seem like you can do an extended mag tube on the 500 because of how the barrel is mounted.

Do you have a picture of how you mounted your light? That's something I did want to add.
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Re: Looking for a pistolgrip full length stock

Bah, load it with 00 - you don't shoot at someone to not kill them plus your neighbors are more than far enough away that errant pellets won't reach them, especially not after passing through a wall or two.

#7 is for birds. Smallish birds.
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Bah, load it with 00 - you don't shoot at someone to not kill them plus your neighbors are more than far enough away that errant pellets won't reach them, especially not after passing through a wall or two.

#7 is for birds. Smallish birds.


If I pull the trigger on my weapons its to kill whats at then end of the barrel.

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Bah, load it with 00 - you don't shoot at someone to not kill them plus your neighbors are more than far enough away that errant pellets won't reach them, especially not after passing through a wall or two.

#7 is for birds. Smallish birds.
Not worried about neighbors. Thinking about my kids in the next room. Collateral damage is acceptable in a war zone. Not in my family.

Again. ..just my opinion. Obviously every tactical situation demands different tactics. The load out I described gives you the most flexibility. And if your worried #7 won't kill them then your mistaking. If it can penetrate 4" into a Canadian goose, it will penetrate 4" into a person. Lots of vital organs and arteries shallower than that.

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Here's a picture of your mossberg cruiser 500 with a tactical light mounted and an extended feed tube (magazine). It looks like the light is in a 45 degree mount. That is a good idea. It has 2 shells on the bottom. Looks to be slugs. A magpul AFG (angled fore grip). It looks like it is all magpul furniture. Has what looks to be a Leopold delta point red dot sight. Also has a ported heat shield on the top. Most likely the heat shield has an integrated picitinny rail for the optics. A side saddle shell holder. If you look at the shell holder they shells are right side up. The should be in it upside down. If you flip the weapon over to load (as I described in my earlier post) you want them to be upside down. Then you can grab them and load them easier. Hold your mossy the way I described and then imagine shells in the side. See? They should be upside down.

Also has a aggressive flash suppressor. That's a good idea. The idea behind that is for door breaching. You stab the suppressor into the door close to the door knob or dead bolt. Pivot it about 45 degrees towards the door jamb and pull the trigger. No more lock. Probably what the 2 slugs in the front are for.

Not a bad set up.
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Here's a picture of your mossberg cruiser 500 with a tactical light mounted and an extended feed tube (magazine). It looks like the light is in a 45 degree mount. That is a good idea. It has 2 shells on the bottom. Looks to be slugs. A magpul AFG (angled fore grip). It looks like it is all magpul furniture. Has what looks to be a Leopold delta point red dot sight. Also has a ported heat shield on the top. Most likely the heat shield has an integrated picitinny rail for the optics. A side saddle shell holder. If you look at the shell holder they shells are right side up. The should be in it upside down. If you flip the weapon over to load (as I described in my earlier post) you want them to be upside down. Then you can grab them and load them easier. Hold your mossy the way I described and then imagine shells in the side. See? They should be upside down.

Also has a aggressive flash suppressor. That's a good idea. The idea behind that is for door breaching. You stab the suppressor into the door close to the door knob or dead bolt. Pivot it about 45 degrees towards the door jamb and pull the trigger. No more lock. Probably what the 2 slugs in the front are for.

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Pm me when I start tearing into it. I can probably help you out a little. Also when it comes to tactical parts for rifles.... therebis a lot of crap out there that looks good online. Kinda like Chinese shorty levers. It looks good, price is good, all good, until you depend on them.


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I repaired the safety, the steel ball had slid out from on top of a spring, & pulled the action down & cleaned everything real good. There were several good Youtube videos showing how to strip it & reassemble. It wasn't bad at all to do, sure as hell helped slick up the action on it.
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Too easy. You tube can make the job easier that's for sure. Go out and shoot it and then see if that ball popped back out. Maybe need a new spring. Have fun with it

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Too easy. You tube can make the job easier that's for sure. Go out and shoot it and then see if that ball popped back out. Maybe need a new spring. Have fun with it

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I'm taking it out tomorrow to test it. The steel ball was just jammed out of place a little, the spring was still there. I smoothed out the parts with some emory cloth & put a little lithium grease on the slide & it seemed like that helped a lot too once it was clean. The fucking one way safety screw that attaches the safety slide switch was a pain in the balls to get loose, I found an allen head screw to replace it at a fastener place today.
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I don't like pistol grip stocks on Mossbergs because of the safety location. I don't like that my hand has to leave fire control to disengage the safety. Try and get your hands on one with a pistol grip stock before buying one.

I went with a Hogue standard stock and also their forend since I hated the ribbed dildo forend it came with.
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