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Need a good, affordable "tactical" shotgun?

After having shot a few of their great 1911s, I picked up a Rock Island Armory M5 pump shotgun for general recreational shooting and for investigating things that go bump in the night. I already had a Mossberg Maverick 88 overseas (not worth the hassle of importing so I gave it to my Dad) and wanted another one since it has served me well for 15 years or so, then got to fondle the M5 at a local store.

RIA guns are made by Armscor in the Philippines but are pretty damn good quality and very solidly built. The exterior of the M5 is nicely finished (parkerized) and while there are plenty of tool marks inside, everything works smoothly - in fact it's THE smoothest action I've ever had the pleasure of using, so smooth that if you hold the muzzle up and press the slide release (hammer back, obviously), the action will slide open under gravity alone Trigger has a short, clean break too.

Unlike the Maverick, the receiver, trigger housing, safety, etc. are all steel. The only plastic parts are the pump grip and the stock and they feel damn solid too. As a bonus the stock is of the Speed Feed type with room for 2 extra rounds.

The downsides (for some people) are the weight (being all steel) and the lack of model specific aftermarket parts. The weight doesn't bother me personally, it's not like I'll be carrying it around for days - and the only aftermarket parts I'm likely to put on are a flashlight (magazine tube is 1" in diameter so there are plenty of rails that fit) and a single point sling which can just loop around the stock behind the pistol grip. Mossberg pattern pistol grip and folding stocks can be easily modified to fit pretty well according to various YouTube vids but I like a full stock. The barrel shroud is stock, BTW.

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Now, my wife has shot plenty of handguns before (she has a CWP, carries a 9mm Walther PPS on a daily basis) but the most powerful long gun she had shot before was a .357 Magnum lever action - which doesn't exactly have much recoil. We went to the nearest indoor range with the M5 after I picked it up Saturday - which meant no easing into it with light birdshot target loads for her... A dozen or so full powered 00 buck shells later she was getting a hang of it, though The bruise is almost gone now and she loves shooting that gun


Edit: Forgot the price, only paid $235 incl. tax


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...one more thing - be ready to spend some time cleaning off grease if you get it new. It's not quite Cosmoline, but it's damn well greased up from the factory...



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First Rock Island shotgun I've seen.how is the market for general replacement parts? Does it have the standard lifetime warranty? I own a 1911 from them and I truly love it. The only thing I want to do is change out the sights. Otherwise it's a good gun. Been looking at a S & W bodyguard 380 as a bike gun too.


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First Rock Island shotgun I've seen.how is the market for general replacement parts? Does it have the standard lifetime warranty? I own a 1911 from them and I truly love it. The only thing I want to do is change out the sights. Otherwise it's a good gun. Been looking at a S & W bodyguard 380 as a bike gun too.


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OEM parts should be easy to get from RIA or through one of their distributors. I bought mine from a Davidson's dealer so it does have the lifetime guarantee: http://www.galleryofguns.com/about/terms.aspx

Forgot, there is a nickel plated version too:

https://us.armscor.com/products/m5-matte-nickel-shotgun


As for bike gun, have you looked at the S&W Shield 9mm? It's not that much bigger, MSRP is only $30 more but it's significantly more powerful.
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I do like the price
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Edit: Forgot the price, only paid $235 incl. tax

Where at? Is it still available at that price ? lol Ill order 1 right now if it is.
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I do like the price
It's probably 10 times as much in California
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Where at? Is it still available at that price ? lol Ill order 1 right now if it is.
RRPSI Firearms in Boynton Beach, FL - Little mom and pop store. They had one left in the shop so if you can't find one locally you might be able to get it shipped - although it won't be as affordable...

http://rrpsifirearms.com/

I've seen a few used ones on Gunbroker and Armslist too but as I read it the lifetime guarantee is only for the original owner.
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Lol thanks for the info. Ill swing by the gun dealer on the way home and see whats available.
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It's probably 10 times as much in California
wouldn't doubt it. Although i have seen plenty of shotguns below the $300 mark. I have had my eye on a remington 870 but i've yet to see it locally for below 400.
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Lol thanks for the info. Ill swing by the gun dealer on the way home and see whats available.
I just checked the Davidson's retailer finder, there are several in Valparaiso - good chance one of them would have one

http://www.galleryofguns.com/Retailer/default.aspx
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wouldn't doubt it. Although i have seen plenty of shotguns below the $300 mark.
Jimenez, Raven Arms, Hi-Point?
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I just checked the Davidson's retailer finder, there are several in Valparaiso - good chance one of them would have one

http://www.galleryofguns.com/Retailer/default.aspx
Thanks alot lol didn't even think to look at retailers, was gonna go to jimmy's on my way home so its a plus its on the list. Although some of those places I have never seen so im curious how up to date that list is.
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OEM parts should be easy to get from RIA or through one of their distributors. I bought mine from a Davidson's dealer so it does have the lifetime guarantee: http://www.galleryofguns.com/about/terms.aspx

Forgot, there is a nickel plated version too:

https://us.armscor.com/products/m5-matte-nickel-shotgun


As for bike gun, have you looked at the S&W Shield 9mm? It's not that much bigger, MSRP is only $30 more but it's significantly more powerful.
I have never shot the Shield. May have to read the reviews and see the thoughts on it.


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Jimenez, Raven Arms, Hi-Point?
There's a mossberg security on sale at Big 5 for $329 right now. Just did a quick search on their website. I just don't like browsing it much since that usually leads to me buying shit that i can't afford
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Personally I think the .380 is getting outdated considering that you can get 9mm guns that are pretty much the same size now - the Shield, Ruger LC9, etc. - the PPS my wife has is slightly larger but has a very flat profile.
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Personally I think the .380 is getting outdated considering that you can get 9mm guns that are pretty much the same size now - the Shield, Ruger LC9, etc. - the PPS my wife has is slightly larger but has a very flat profile.
True. But I'm a firm believer that some guns just " fit" me better. There's no point in have more powerful ammo if you can't hit what you are aiming at.


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True. But I'm a firm believer that some guns just " fit" me better. There's no point in have more powerful ammo if you can't hit what you are aiming at.


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Agree! No point in a handgun that doesn't fit your hand and that you have to force to be on point. That's actually one of the reasons my wife got the PPS, it fit her the best - in addition to being a great, super-reliable gun.
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The nickel model is really nice looking too.
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