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Gun purchasing advice needed (brand: Hi-point)

Hi all

I want to buy my first hand gun, just want some inputs and thoughts about this gun I saw from the gun show.

The price ($180ish shipped) is very cheap compared to high end brands, and its made in USA with full transferable lifetime warranty.


I dont mind the ugliness nor weight. I just want a gun for the range and protection from time to time.

Anyone have experience with this guns quality? Jamming frequency?

http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/hand...int_45acp.html


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Re: Gun purchasing advice needed (brand: Hi-point)

I don't have any personal experience with the Hi-Points but I have heard from several sources that if you just polish the feed ramp (better than it is from the factory, they have to save somewhere) they are actually pretty reliable and a good bang for the buck. I would recommend you try shooting one first, though - or at least handling it since the ergonomics are kinda... "Different"... The best gun in the world isn't much good if it doesn't fit your hand.
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what do you mean polishing the feed ramp?
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I have heard nothing bad about them. They get bashed a lot because of the mind set that if its cheap it must be garbage. I hear the CS is great for warranty. If money is an issue then its a good buy because you also need to factor in ammo and .45 is not cheap at all. I would recommend getting one chambered in 9mm so you can practice more. I actually stopped myself from buying a G21 last month because I knew I couldt afford to shoot it as much as I would like so I bought a .22 conversion for my G17 instead.

If money is not an issue I would buy a glock or S&W M&P.

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Re: Gun purchasing advice needed (brand: Hi-point)

The feed ramp is the part of the barrel that guides a fresh round from the magazine into the chamber.

Cheaper guns tend to have fairly rough metal on the feed ramp. Cleaning that up can be time consuming, which is part of what makes a cheaper gun cheap, but I've seen "higher end" guns that could benefit from some polishing to the metal there.

It's not hard to do yourself with some fine sandpaper and some fine polishing compound and some rags.

I highly suggest you google the process and read up on it. I'm sure there's youtube videos about it as well.

I personally hate HiPoint guns, but a HiPoint is better than no gun at all, and some people out there love them because they're cheap and supposedly rugged.


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what do you mean polishing the feed ramp?
Just behind the chamber (rear part of the barrel where the cartridge is during firing) there is a ramp leading up from the magazine. During loading (and cycling between shots) the slide goes back and forwards. During the forwards movement it pushes the top cartridge in the magazine forwards and up the feed ramp into the chamber.

The smoother that feed ramp is, the more reliable the gun will be (or at least it'll reduce the possibility of that being a reason for misfeeds). One easy way to save money when making guns is not spending too much time on polishing so most often (not always) a cheap gun will have less "nice" inside surfaces than a more expensive one.

So polishing that ramp yourself is a good idea, buff it up to a mirror-like surface. Makes it easier to clean too and taking your gun apart to work on it is a great way of getting to know it better.


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If money is not an issue I would buy a glock or S&W M&P.
CZ GREAT quality while more affordable
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CZ GREAT quality while more affordable
Thank you, I forgot a cz. It is the mosin nagant of the pistol world.
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Thank you, I forgot a cz. It is the mosin nagant of the pistol world.
Except still made - and the current ones are as good as a standard production gun gets - and winning competitions

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There's some great deals out there in military surplus CZ's.

If money's an issue, I'd strongly consider a nice used gun as opposed to a bottom tier new gun.

A well built and cared for gun will easily outlast an owner or two or three.
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And to the OP:

If you haven't been to any sort of formal handgun instruction, look into it. Seriously. Not only will you get a good foundation into proper firearms safety and handling and care, you'll get some hands on experience which will help you determine the right gun for you.
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If money's an issue, I'd strongly consider a nice used gun as opposed to a bottom tier new gun.

A well built and cared for gun will easily outlast an owner or two or three.


I have several guns made before and during WW2 and they still function flawlessly. I seriously doubt the same could be said of for example a present-day Hi-Point 70 years into the future...
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There's some great deals out there in military surplus CZ's.

If money's an issue, I'd strongly consider a nice used gun as opposed to a bottom tier new gun.

A well built and cared for gun will easily outlast an owner or two or three.
I dont know if I can drop $4-600 for a high end new gun, and I dont want to buy a "poor condition" used one either.


I went to the shooting range numerous times with my dad and his guns. So I kinda know how to operate one. But will get my concealed permit soon.
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I dont know if I can drop $4-600 for a high end new gun, and I dont want to buy a "poor condition" used one either.


I went to the shooting range numerous times with my dad and his guns. So I kinda know how to operate one. But will get my concealed permit soon.
Just because a gun is pre-owned, doesn't mean it's in poor condition.

Some of my favorite guns are older than me, and I'm 30 years old. Honestly, they don't make em like they used to. The finish quality on some 30 year old guns is amazing compared to the same model today brand new.

My revolver spent probably 20 + years on patrol in a cop's holster, but is like new in terms of mechanical condition.

There's alot of great used guns out on the market that can be had for the prices you're talking about if you shop in the right places.


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Just checked Gunbroker - you can spend a bit more and get something that LASTS:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=220353768

Yes, it's used. But it's one of the best (although often underrated) guns in the world, it's built like in the "good old days" so it'll last forever with maintenance, it's reliable and precise.
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Like an idiot, I purchased one as my first. Do yourself a favor, save your money and get a better brand. I had nothing hut issues with my hi point 9mm. Jamming, chipped barrel paint, springs in the clip going bad. It's just not worth it.
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You can find a used gun that has only had 20 rounds put through it. Most people baby their firearms and as long as you have the patience you can find an amazing used gun for cheap. When ever I buy a new firearm I buy something I know will work because your life may depend on it. I have sold many guns over issues most people would ignore.
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Dude go spring field armory! its kinda costly but way worth it! I have the 9mm xd and the 45 xd both very accurate and good weight. I have put 1000's of rounds through it and never had a miss fire or jam up ever! the 45 was a good secondary that fucking garbage ass paper weight they give you just did not cut it! Stupid 9mm SF
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