I just made my first powerslide in street. It was awesome feeling, and I would like to learn to do it in more controlled manner. I'm not trying to be a squid and do it on street, but it would be great to learn to control a powerslide during a corner in track(in street as well if accidentally powerslide).
So is there anything tricks&tips to do a powerslide? What factors should be taken into consideration? I hear that some racers use rear brake when entering a corner to get a powerslide? And with powerslide a corner could be taken through with a greater speed?
When I get from corners I'm always afraid to get hard on throttle cuz I fear that I would lose grip from rear tyre and get totalled, but I guess it won't flip it over so easily? Today, my first powerslide did feel quite neutral in my butt. I just heard rise of rpm and a experienced sliding movement from rear. So I guess in powerslide there is no much feedback from bike and tyre. I'm really looking forward to get back on throttle hard when I'm exiting corners, so it's more likely to get powerslides. Do you have any advices to not to flip it and to have a controlled powerslide? Also have any of you crashed because of powersliding?
By the way, I think suspensions affects on powersliding and I'm weight only 58kg and as I know the stock suspensions are tuned for a 65 - 75kg rider. So would this stiff/hard suspension make it easier to feather and do powerslides? I'm not afraid of powerslides, but I'm afraid of powersliding to much and get a highsider or something...
Always be smooth on the throttle, never just drop throttle because it's sliding, ride out the slide and don't take it too far
Yep - dropping the throttle is a good way to start a highside... Take tires into consideration - street tires aren't made for it and if you do it repeatedly you'll lose grip
Yep - dropping the throttle is a good way to start a highside... Take tires into consideration - street tires aren't made for it and if you do it repeatedly you'll lose grip
Yep, tempting a highside for sure.
But if you are going to slide, then less grippy tyres are better as the stickier ones generate quite a bit of heat quite quickly when they spin - this means they could suddenly generate enough grip to flip you over the... highside!
Learn better throttle control and try to avoid powerslides. If you're rear end is sliding out it means your not driving forward as efficiently as you could.
All these raceteams wouldn't be babbling so much about traction control if they actually wanted their bikes sliding all over the place. Practice to learn to control and and recover from it, but don't induce it to tempt a crash.
yea, i don't think you want to be practicing this on the streets either. I think you've been watching too much Fast and the Furious 3. Drift's might "look" cool, but on bikes, ur just losing traction.
But if you are going to slide, then less grippy tyres are better as the stickier ones generate quite a bit of heat quite quickly when they spin - this means they could suddenly generate enough grip to flip you over the... highside!
When the tire gets spun, in this example a powerslide it only heats the top of tire meaning the carcass, and they dont generate heat any quicker then normal cornering
When the tire gets spun, in this example a powerslide it only heats the top of tire meaning the carcass, and they dont generate heat any quicker then normal cornering
Not sure that I agree with this. Compare a tyre after a couple of miles of hard riding, to a tyre that has just been used to do a burnout. I will put my hand on the tyre that has been ridden, but not the burnout tyre.
Not sure that I agree with this. Compare a tyre after a couple of miles of hard riding, to a tyre that has just been used to do a burnout. I will put my hand on the tyre that has been ridden, but not the burnout tyre.
Ive read more than once in more than a few places that Fridayman is right. Actually now that I think about it the topic was on the movie Faster.
But if you are going to slide, then less grippy tyres are better as the stickier ones generate quite a bit of heat quite quickly when they spin - this means they could suddenly generate enough grip to flip you over the... highside!
Actually the sticky race tires slide in a much more predictable and controllable way
While losing traction isn't a good thing in most cases, it can be useful if you're about to run wide in a corner. Spinning the rear a bit points you more inward. Use it occationally myself - on the track...
But again - do not try this at home - or on the street...
I haven't saw Too fast too furious 3, do they even ride with bikes? Umm... I'm not planning to learn to use that in corners constantly, but I would like to know how to proceed when this happens. Today I just rode with new R6R and with new tires. It started to rain... well as you might guess, I had quite many(MANY) slides in my 1hour ride. I rode quite aggressively in straights and faaast turns, mainly acceleration and engine-braking, because I was trying to break-in(the hard way) the engine. I must say that those new Dunlop Qualifiers & wet asphalt == VERY SLIPPERY!
I haven't saw Too fast too furious 3, do they even ride with bikes? Umm... I'm not planning to learn to use that in corners constantly, but I would like to know how to proceed when this happens. Today I just rode with new R6R and with new tires. It started to rain... well as you might guess, I had quite many(MANY) slides in my 1hour ride. I rode quite aggressively in straights and faaast turns, mainly acceleration and engine-braking, because I was trying to break-in(the hard way) the engine. I must say that those new Dunlop Qualifiers & wet asphalt == VERY SLIPPERY!
Are you:
a) ing in our pockets
b) not really wheel spinning but your clutch is slipping big time
or c)
A riding God
Its not definately a and its not b, because I can feel the sliding, and I'm not riding good. In which part you think I'm kidding? Could you just imagine new tires, fast corner to a straight, with throttle proggressively increased to fully open position? (I wanted to revv it to limiter in 2nd gear and have good engine-braking because I'm braking the engine in) That 1 hour ride was basically just braking engine and transmission in. Even a noob with new tires, in rain, and bit of cracking throttle movement would get a slide.
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