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Old 06-07-2013, 02:05 PM   #1
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California Exhaust Ban Update; your state may also be included

SENATE BILL 435

Ok, I had another post on exhausts, etc and thought I'd post up the links of my research.

Basically the exhaust will be stamped in clear view that it is EPA compliant and certified for street/road use.

The Bill isn't long and worth the read.

Here is just some of what they proposed for EPA noise pollution restrictions:

- it called for a $300 fine, a moving violation, a point on a driving record, and it would have allowed any law enforcement officer, including meter maids to cite motorcyclists, even if the motorcycle was parked

This was later changed:
"due to ABATE’s efforts, violations were changed from a moving violation to a fix-it-ticket, it was dropped to a $50 fine from $300, and it is a secondary violation, meaning that it can’t be the primary reason for an enforcement stop".


Now, the rough part is for you guys out of state. It stated that other states are adopting the California law but are not notifying their citizens so the 2 yr grace period will not be available.

The rule goes like this:

- Any bike '12 and prior are grandfathered.
- ALL '13s are banned from installing full/slip-on exhausts for street purposes UNLESS the exhaust is EPA approved.
- Bikes '12 and prior are fine but buying exhausts after 1/1/13 will not be approved. A receipt proving it was purchased prior to Jan 1, 2013 clears you.

The Law:
- I contacted the SDPD who stated he really doesn't push exhaust citations unless, the severity of the crime, excessive smoke, or excessive noise. Asked me to stop by CHP

- I went to the station and spoke with a CHP officer. Discussed and showed him the CA Bill. We look it up via book and for his manual it doesn't show for 2013. He did say that bc we can't find it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It could have been pushed and passed in 2009, 2010, etc. and in those Statute books.
He stated that he typically doesn't issue citations with exhausts on motorcycles. He did say foreign vehicles that race and have obnoxiously loud exhausts are addressed.

CHP also stated that it would be a fix it ticket and if you're caught after 2x it normally is pushed to the next step where the citation is issued and you are forced to show up in court and the judge decides your fine, etc. and is usually quite a bit worse than normal fix-it violations. The reason is bc you are purposely defying the law and keep repeating the orders to correct the issue.


Senate Bill 435 Link:

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bil...chaptered.html


Motorcycle Committee Fighting Bill; Clearing up the Misconceptions w/ UPDATES as of 5/28/13
http://bikersofamerica.blogspot.com/...ng-up.html?m=1

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Old 06-07-2013, 02:48 PM   #2
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L1 for the win!!! Yup California is a mutha when it comes to emission standards.


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Old 06-07-2013, 04:54 PM   #3
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Not so fast. You have to purchase the exhaust prior to 1/1/13. That means you'd have to purchase an older model exhaust. If you have the latest model and say "hey, I bought this 3 yrs ago". You may be able to argue that you lost your receipt and he may let you go but if he knows bikes and you lie, you'll be in for a little more than a fix-it ticket most likely...


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Old 06-07-2013, 06:58 PM   #4
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fuck California...
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:03 PM   #5
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Re: California Exhaust Ban Update; your state may also be included

Depending on how the manufactures stamp it, be it a plate that's welded on or truly stamped in. I'm sure you will be able to find a way to make any exhaust look like it's legal. Unless you have some bad ass that actually knows bikes.

Don't see how it would be any different then what they would push up on cars for if it's so loud people can hear you coming from 3 blocks away you may want to look into something different.
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God I love Florida. No emissions testing, non care for your exhaust, don't give a shit policy on HIDs, no lift laws for pickups... yeah I'll stay here. Have fun Californians!

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Old 06-07-2013, 09:24 PM   #7
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Crap gun laws and now impeding into motorcycles... Never will I move to California.
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:28 PM   #8
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Gee, if only there was some way to ignore the law...
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:08 PM   #10
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The problem with CA is liberals have fucked up the state so bad they are now moving to other states and will soon ruin those too.

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I bet someone starts selling EPA plates on Ebay to glue on to your exhaust
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- ALL '13s are banned from installing full/slip-on exhausts for street purposes UNLESS the exhaust is EPA approved.

Do people really think a simple plate will be sufficient to satisfy this law?

EPA Approval would take time, and if you really HAVE to have an exhaust system, hope that the manufactures have already started the process. More than likely a plate will not be allowed, as the current market of aftermarket exhaust systems are NOT DOT/EPA approved. For those that have them you will see it stamped a number of different ways: "NOT DOT APPROVED", "NOT EPA APPROVED", "FOR OFFROAD USE ONLY", "RACE USE ONLY", etc etc etc.

All systems/slip-ons will have to go through the Gov process and will, more than likely, have to be stamped on the exhaust, just as the OEM cans are.

The only system I have seen that satisfies a Gov approval, ECE standard, is Akrapovic. They may be on their way to DOT/EPA approval.

Otherwise, there really is no need for aftermarket exhaust on the street. I can go without it. Use the money elsewhere.
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Why so much drama? I believe you can put anything on your bike if you aren't going to ride on pubic roads, no?
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God I love Florida. No emissions testing, non care for your exhaust, don't give a shit policy on HIDs, no lift laws for pickups... yeah I'll stay here. Have fun Californians!

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Seems Florida lets people do what they want. No helmet laws , stand your ground. California has strict emission laws but you can easily work around them.


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Why not just move? LOL.
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Why not just move? LOL.
+1 haha if I move I'm going to Canada , or the country side of the states.


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Gee, if only there was some way to ignore the law...
That was fucking funny to me.
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Why so much drama? I believe you can put anything on your bike if you aren't going to ride on pubic roads, no?
Sure, to an extent. There are laws on what type of off road exhaust systems to use when in the forests of California. There's even a noise ordinance for Laguna Seca during track days.

The California Law here is about street use though.



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No emissions, but Florida does have a Noise Ordinance, which then plays into aftermarket exhaust systems.

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Maximum Sound Level
Manufactured before 1/1/79--82 dBA (35 mph or less); 86dBA (over 35 mph).
Manufactured after 1/1/79--78 dBA (35 mph or less); 82 dBA (over 35 mph).
Flordia Statutes, 316.293 (2)


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Required; Florida Statutes, 316.272
No modifications which increase sound to a level higher than the manufacturer's original standand allowed; Florida Statutes, 316.293 (2), (5)

The police can pull over anyone on a bike not wearing a helmet. Their documents are then checked if they are within Florida Law.

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Helmets not required for riders over 21 with a minimum of $10,000 in medical insurance; Flordia Statutes, 316.211 (1), (4)

State Insurance Requirements
Required:
$10,000 per person bodily injury
$20,000 total bodily injury
$10,000 personal property damage liability
$30,000 single limit liability
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Do people really think a simple plate will be sufficient to satisfy this law?

EPA Approval would take time, and if you really HAVE to have an exhaust system, hope that the manufactures have already started the process. More than likely a plate will not be allowed, as the current market of aftermarket exhaust systems are NOT DOT/EPA approved. For those that have them you will see it stamped a number of different ways: "NOT DOT APPROVED", "NOT EPA APPROVED", "FOR OFFROAD USE ONLY", "RACE USE ONLY", etc etc etc.

All systems/slip-ons will have to go through the Gov process and will, more than likely, have to be stamped on the exhaust, just as the OEM cans are.

The only system I have seen that satisfies a Gov approval, ECE standard, is Akrapovic. They may be on their way to DOT/EPA approval.

Otherwise, there really is no need for aftermarket exhaust on the street. I can go without it. Use the money elsewhere.

Sorry but Acrapovic is already banned and most commercial large dealers do not carry them nor will install full header and exhausts. I've already went to order one and discussed this.
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