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Re: Switching from 600 to 1000?
Especially when the goal is to conserve at least SOME fuel when commuting. I'm not talking about a quick blast around town just for fun, talking about using the bike to commute, in which case you generally keep the RPMs down low.
I am in 3rd gear because i dont want to have the bike screaming around town. Riding in 1st gear all the time? The whole reason why i like a 1k on the street is because i dont want the bike screaming everywhere and revving the shit out of something.
Why do i need to cruise around town at 8k RPM? Do you think people are impressed by the noise of the bike?
To answer the question about cruising around on the 750, i normally stayed around 5-6k or so. Again, i am in no hurry on the streets and feel no need to have the bike screaming all the time.
Motorcycle: 2012 Hayabusa (SOLD) - 2013 Harley Davidson Road King
Posts: 9,679
Re: Switching from 600 to 1000?
I try to keep my RPMs around 3-4k when commuting around town. Keep in mind, the redline of a Busa is just shy of 12k, not 15k so 3-4k is equiv of 5-6k on a 600/750.
Ive kind of gone the other way, until 2010, I hadnt had a 600 since (showing my age here ) a CBR600 in 1990 but fate led me to a 600 SRAD in 2010 and I absolutely loved it, the thrill of screaming the motor and really using the gear box was great fun...this was after a GSXR1000 ...I also have a 1999 Hayabusa a run alongside the 600, which is also a shed load of fun, in a different kind of riding experience.
I love the Busa, it may be hard to imagine for some but there is a similar difference in power delivery/torque of the Busa's 1300cc lump Vs my old K7 1000 , than there is a 600 Vs a 1000..
I know have the perfect compromise between the two, a GSX-R750 and the Busa.
Id still say its one of those "must do's" to own a litre bike but it isnt the be all and end all of motorcycling, its what you do with it, not the cc that counts.
My dilemma right now is that I have two 1000's, and I don't want to let either of them go: the K6 because I've had it for over 6 years and it's been a trooper; the CBR because I've had the engine rebuilt (along with some headwork) and it handles and stops on a dime and gives back change in a way the Suzuki wishes it could.
you don't have to be at peak power in the rpm range to cruise around town. If i'm on the hwy donig 65mph on my 1k i'm in 6th gear cruising at like 4500 or so rpm. With that said first gear with OEM gearing can hit somewhere around 100mph. There's no need to redline every gear in the street.
Fair enough but I don't think I've ever had my bike in 6th unless I was doing 250km/h+. Even when 'cruising' at moderate speeds, I still hover around 4th gear or less comfortably...
i would take a 750. not just because i already have one, but they are everything i need and want on the street, AND there is an abundance of parts. buy a 1000, and you have to stick to 1000 parts for that particular generation, but buy a 750, and you double your part sales (and i have the bonus of sooooooo many interchangeable parts for k6/7 too). i have -1/+2 and so i still have to try not to wheelie in the low gears, and you can throw the thing in 3 and 4 for going around town no problems. anything 50 mph and above i can put the thing in 6th and leave it. anyone arguing the size difference of 600 versus 1000 dimensions just doesn't know the real deal. 1" difference in wheelbase on the street is unnoticeable and 190 profile and engine rotating weight is also inconsequential. i have to admit that i did look at 1k for the street, but i am more than happy with my 750.
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For the love of God, a 1000 is a definite giant step up from a 600 in every way and that includes agility and handling. I can throw my 1000 around just as easy as my 600 but you just have a lot more power to play with when doing it. Experience helps a lot, I've been riding rockets for almost 20yrs now, yes 20 yrs (I'm 44). My 600 gets taken out maybe once or twice a year because it has become a bore to ride anymore compared to my 1000. When my 600 finally dies I'll never get another one. Not that there's anything wrong with 600's but once you've moved up to a 1000 why would you want to back tract down to a 600 again? Just my 2 cents is all--
My dilemma right now is that I have two 1000's, and I don't want to let either of them go: the K6 because I've had it for over 6 years and it's been a trooper; the CBR because I've had the engine rebuilt (along with some headwork) and it handles and stops on a dime and gives back change in a way the Suzuki wishes it could.
Why the rebuild? Did you only get the head done or more work Such as cams,valve job? Also how do you like the bike now comapared to stock? What did you make stock vs compared to after hp wise?
once you've moved up to a 1000 why would you want to back tract down to a 600 again? Just my 2 cents is all--
600 imo would be more fun for smaller tracks like Jennings. I have a built motor k6 1000 into a 1143cc stroker and love riding the wifes 600 even though it has more than twice the hp of the 600. Some people actually move from a 1000 to a 600. I love how I can go on bike rides with friends when I have time and open up the 600 without getting into too much trouble. Out of all my bikes I think I like the 600 the best
That is interesting. Most people I know with larger displacement bikes never get out of first until they are well past the speed limit.
Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously, are you trolling? I agree with both of the below, especially Toejam. I ride a 600, and on streets it's in 6th gear at 30 MPH (in city, lower gear when accelerating onto highway), accelerates with normal traffic, and the engine has never lugged. Turns out I don't have to hit 70mph to get out of first, and the engine runs fine at 5-6k rpm. Imagine that.
Also, shifting isn't that hard, so why all the fuss about having to shift?
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Originally Posted by 06hermaphrodite1k
you don't have to be at peak power in the rpm range to cruise around town.There's no need to redline every gear in the street.
Originally Posted by SPL170db Just remember....."respect for the bike" is not what keeps you from crashing. You can have all the respect in the world for the bike, but when you do something accidentally and the bike reacts in a way that your skillset doesn't know how to respond to.......that's what ends you up on your head.
like david said up above, why are u in first gear that long. I live ina residential area that I am doing 25-30 in 6th till I hit the light that leads to the 50 and then im still in 6th. (after light of course). Thats on my 600 and my buddies r6 i am riding currently
Why the rebuild? Did you only get the head done or more work Such as cams,valve job? Also how do you like the bike now comapared to stock? What did you make stock vs compared to after hp wise?
Keep the k6. Best 1000 Suzuki made imo
The engine was rebuilt because it lost compression in two cylinders. This was due to the infamous oil-burning issue. While it was apart my tech cut a full radius on all valve seats, cleaned up the ports, modded the chambers and tops of the JE pistons for more compression, and degreed the stock cams. Before, it was probably running no stronger than a good 750...thank God I didn't get it dynoed then! Now it's hard to keep the front end down. Feels stronger than the K6 but I must run premium or else it'll ping. I have yet to dyno it, I want to get a Bazzaz first.
My GSXR has retarded cam timing, but once they're out where they should be, the K6 should feel just as strong as the CBR.
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How tall are you? What was your first bike? Im looking to purchase my first....I want a 750. All of the advice on here is advising against it. Im a little older (41), and dont plan on pulling stunts, or riding over 70. My other option is to get a 600. Im just shy of 6'1, 33 inch inseam.
Just my .02, I've been riding my k6 600 for a little over two months now. Longest trip I did was ~250 miles in a day (it was a lot more than 11 minutes before my wrists went numb!) I'm 6'1", 150lbs, so kind of a scarecrow. Height-wise, I have no issues with the 600. I'm almost 32, so perhaps a bit more limber, but aside from that, I don't think it's all that hard to fit on a 600 at 6ft+ unless you're a really big, inflexible guy.
That said, I am CONSTANTLY amazed at how many "veteran" riders aren't aware of what can be adjusted on the bike to make it fit the rider...
Trust me i know what you mean. Keep the k6 and maybe one day throw a 4mill stroker in it, -1 gearing and then take her out. You will be smiling all day!
The whole reason why i like a 1k on the street is because i dont want the bike screaming everywhere and revving the shit out of something. 
Now it's hard to keep the front end down. Feels stronger than the K6 but I must run premium or else it'll ping. I have yet to dyno it, I want to get a Bazzaz first.
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