I've tried OEM......they were ok. Then went to EBC HH and of course they had more bite but less feel. Next up was Ferado Array pads. A tad less bite than EBC but way more feel. Now have a set of Carbone Lorain pads awaiting install with new Galfer rotors. (Got a great price on them from Mummy by the way!!) Will see how this pans out come spring for a track day. Considering one of the factory rotors now has a severe shake when applying the brakes it will no doubt be better than that. Everyone raves about Vesrah but I've also read they are less than stellar at street speeds. Hard to say as I've never tried them.
The biggest problem with the six piston calipers is the heat, causing fluid expansion and thus the poor/unpredictable lever at the master. Going to an organic pad and/or some better (higher iron content) rotors may help until your speed increase nullifies that modification.
Still, you´re in a bit of a pickle if you don´t have the funds to upgrade to the radial mounts, mc , etc. tho.
I dealt with the brake fade/lever inconsistency ordeal back when this generation bike was "state of the art". After lines and aftermarket sintered metal pads, I upgraded to this set up which helped with the heat. Iron discs & organic Ferodo pads:
BTW, those forks seemed to work pretty well judging by the lack of the telltale strip on that tyre.
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OK - might look at the iron rotors - pads sound good, but there are a lot of people commenting on the flex and issues with the 6 pots. I like them to clean and fit. 959 calipers sound good as a compromise to cost, but I don't know if my stainless lines bought for the gsxr calipers would fit? Would it be worth changing the MC?
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Have read alot of posts on brakes......Spl seems to now alot about them!
I think iirc he recommended first and for most no air in the system.
A good bleed, ss lines, good pads(i think vesrah were suggested)m/c upgrade, rotors and lastly the calipers....in that order.
I'm sure he'll chime in and correct me if i'm wrong!
Cheapest, quick fix would probably be the Honda calipers and some good pads. The lines you already have ought to be long enough, just look at the banjo placement on a CBR caliper of the variety you prefer, to make sure.
The pad surface area on the OE Tokicos is their downfall. As far as flex, I dare say unless you´re running ultra-fast laptimes or near endo braking maneuvers, you most likely won´t have that kinda problem.
Braking, BrakeTech and Galfer, among others, offer stainless steel replacement rotors with higher iron content than the originals.
Galfer offers Black Carbon Organic & HH Sintered Metal Pads. Pad selection depends on what you use the bike, for....Street, Track or both. Black Carbon Organic are closer to your OEM pads and usually give you better braking & feel over OEM. They are also easier on your rotors vs. the HH Pads.
HH Pads are made of a Sintered Metal that require a higher amount of heat to work effectively. So, for track days, aggressive street or race they work awesome once they are HOT! They are also a bit more aggressive to the rotors but last a bit longer than the Black Organic pads as well.
EBC HH pads are a great all around pad used by tons of guys. Cant really go wrong with either brand. Hope that helps and ride safe..
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If you are getting a lot of heat you must be on the track ??? if not then you are doing some serious street riding.
I was going to go the full hog on my K2 thousand with cast iron rotors and maybe Brimbo calipers, but after fitting a Brembo master cyl and putting on braided brake lines. This was a serious upgrade on the standard setup and for street riding was more than good enough.
Have done some track days and have not had problems with over heating. I think racing would prob show up some flex or heat problems and maybe warrant calipers and rotors, but ! i dont race and my current setup with the 6 pots works fairly well
You're wasting your time with rotors and MCs and pads.
The trick calipers as Alfafa said are the 929 or 954 Nissans. They were used on CBR600Rs as well I believe.
Trust me, put those calipers on and you will be grinning in your helmet for days, they are really that good. I did the swap and they are better that the GSX-R radials by a noticeable amount.
You'll need to dremel the trailing edge 3mm or so where the caliper halves meet so the discs don't rub.
Galfer offers Black Carbon Organic & HH Sintered Metal Pads. Pad selection depends on what you use the bike, for....Street, Track or both. Black Carbon Organic are closer to your OEM pads and usually give you better braking & feel over OEM. They are also easier on your rotors vs. the HH Pads.
HH Pads are made of a Sintered Metal that require a higher amount of heat to work effectively. So, for track days, aggressive street or race they work awesome once they are HOT! They are also a bit more aggressive to the rotors but last a bit longer than the Black Organic pads as well.
EBC HH pads are a great all around pad used by tons of guys. Cant really go wrong with either brand. Hope that helps and ride safe..
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thanks! that helps alot HardRacing!!!
i'm going with Galfer, just because its a better the OEM...and i'm satisfied with OEM
Cheapest, quick fix would probably be the Honda calipers and some good pads
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And I've always been an advocate of Vesrah SJRL17's. Try as I might I could not get my setup to fade even a smidge last I was at VIR, and that was probably the hardest braking it's had to deal with yet.
In regards to caliper flex, it takes some seriously hard braking to induce the kind of flex that could be noticeable to someone who is not making podiums at the club level on a regular basis.