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Old 06-16-2010, 07:08 PM   #1
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05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

Ok - i've searched and searched...

I've had crap loads of bikes over the years - owned a bike shop and installed a few PC's in my time on diff bikes.
Seems some bikes respond really really well - others, we'll not so great.

A mate has imacculate 05 750 - and is umming on a PC3. He has a TRS pipe and kn filter.
When i pc3 my 1000 - it felt like about 6-8hp increase, throttle response was worth another gear...if it accelerate in 6th as if i was in 5th after the custom map.

Can anyone confirm the 05 750 response to a PC ? Don't bother with "if the bike is running well now bulldust" because without having anything to compare it with, without it back firing and lurching, or without a AFR - you wouldn't honestly know...it's amazing what you can get used too on a bike.

What i am looking for is real world dyno charts with similar mods - either generic maps or custom map results....when i say real world - i know there is charts over at dynojet - but these are not exactly real world...

Also - if anyone knows best place to buy from or is selling their bike and wants to pull their PC - please PM or respond here.

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Old 06-17-2010, 12:33 AM   #2
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

Not exactly what you asked for, because I DO NOT have a power commander, but these are the results for my 05 750 using a factory suzuki tuning tool on the dyno. He did say it would get better with the PC but it was my call to spend close to ~300 for it. I'm running K&N air filter and a scorpion exhaust.

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Old 06-17-2010, 02:57 AM   #3
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Yes - that's exactly what i'm looking for. IS that really your bike though ?? Some kick ass, serious gains. 6 hp at the top BUT check out the almost 20 freakin HP at 11,000rpm !!How did the above feel on the road ? The suzuki factory tool remaps the original ecu, yes ??
I'm not going to ask if you though it was worth it - those gains are worth 5 times more coin.
Thanks for posting that.
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:16 PM   #4
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

Yes, this is my bike -- bought it used back in October of last year. I think the previous owner made the mods but didnt put it on a dyno so it was running really rich.

The guy I went to is known to be one of the best in the area, here in Washington. I definitely felt the difference, and you better believe my passanger did haha

Just so you know, I was able to feel the smooth power delivery now (much more 'linear' than before) than just the extra raw power.

And the factory tool does remap the original ecu. So if you can find someone who has one, you will get the most bang for the buck. Since this other forum I'm on did a group event out of it, I only had to pay 70 bucks. 70 bucks for close to 20hp midrange isn't such a bad deal

P.S. If you're wondering the difference between what I have now and what I would get with a PC, I can't answer that question with numbers (i.e. like how many HPs I would gain at what range, etc). But he did say he could get it smoother and I may gain a few hp here and there but no huge jump like in this first run. So to me, it wasn't worth it.
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Old 06-18-2010, 08:28 AM   #5
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

i know my buddies dad with an 08 gsxr 750 did his filters full yosh exhaust n pc, with a preloaded map from the dealer n he was amazed. he has over 25 years of seat time n said those were the best things he ever did. i dont have numbers but i can tell you he walked from me like i was standing still on my 04 full exhaust filter n pc with a -1 in front. he said "damn thing felt like it was gonna rip my hands right off the bars!!!"
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:10 PM   #6
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

Doesn't look like too many 750 riders really go to the effort to remap their own bikes ?

No one else can assist in real world power gains from PC3 on this model ?

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Old 06-23-2010, 07:11 PM   #7
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

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Yes, this is my bike -- bought it used back in October of last year. I think the previous owner made the mods but didnt put it on a dyno so it was running really rich.

The guy I went to is known to be one of the best in the area, here in Washington. I definitely felt the difference, and you better believe my passanger did haha

Just so you know, I was able to feel the smooth power delivery now (much more 'linear' than before) than just the extra raw power.

And the factory tool does remap the original ecu. So if you can find someone who has one, you will get the most bang for the buck. Since this other forum I'm on did a group event out of it, I only had to pay 70 bucks. 70 bucks for close to 20hp midrange isn't such a bad deal

P.S. If you're wondering the difference between what I have now and what I would get with a PC, I can't answer that question with numbers (i.e. like how many HPs I would gain at what range, etc). But he did say he could get it smoother and I may gain a few hp here and there but no huge jump like in this first run. So to me, it wasn't worth it.
who/where did you go to tune your bike?
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:52 AM   #8
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who/where did you go to tune your bike?
This guy named Nels here in the Puget Sound area (in Washington state). This is his email: 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

Do you have the Map for the 1000 with the scorpion exhaust?
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:38 PM   #10
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i have a pc3 on my 04 600... i could possibly b convinced to sell it, as im really wanting to go to the pcV
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Old 10-26-2010, 07:23 AM   #11
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

i dont think you would see any more gains with the pcv then the pcIII and i dont think the pcV was maid to work with our bikes, only thew newer ones someone chime in if im wrong
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:41 AM   #12
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

^^^ the only benefit is the auto-tune feature.
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:25 PM   #13
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yup i was gonna have the bung welded in and get the auto tune feature... thats my main reason for switching... and the plugs n all r the same from 04-present so the pcV will work
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Old 10-26-2010, 01:15 PM   #14
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

the PCV is only available for the newer bikes, usually starting in 09
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Old 10-26-2010, 01:32 PM   #15
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

^^^

I really wish we could get come consensus on this. Corey says that they will work. Powercommander's website says 2006 and up. You say 2009 and up.

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Old 10-26-2010, 02:27 PM   #16
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never tried it, just going off what the availability book says
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Old 10-26-2010, 02:36 PM   #17
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well of course the book says 09 n up cuz if not it would hurt the sales of the pc3... y buy a pc3 if u can buy a pcV instead.... if i recall there was sum1 on here that had a pcV on their 04/05

either way im down to sell my pc3 in favor of a pcV
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all i know is 04/05 600 and 750 have different part numbers, so do 06/07.

i just assumed if they use different part numbers for the pc3's then there's some kind of difference.
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i kno one difference is that the 04/05's dont have an O2 sensor... im not sure on the 06/07's if they have an O2 or not
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Re: 05 Gixxer 750 - Power Commander gains

k4+ 600/750 use same plugs so any pc3/pc5 from these bikes will work on each other.

the later model has powercommanders have 02 sensor, but also have an 02sensor plug to disable this feature on them, since most of the aftermarket exhausts don't have 02 bungs either.

So in theory you could install one of these on our bikes, or if you really want get an 02 sesnor bung welded in to header pipes.

Just cause the part numbers are different' doesn't mean jack. I used a pc3 from a k5 gsxr 1000 in my k4 600 for 2 1/2 years. (wasn't plugin play, had to solder the plugs in) but it worked fine.
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