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Old 06-16-2010, 05:37 PM   #1
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Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

I need some of the "A" grease and naturally all I have is the "C" grease. Anybody have a can of the "A" grease laying around? Can you tell me what type of grease it is? There will usually be a description on the side of the can.

What is confusing is the fact that in different parts of the world, or from one year to the next, Grease A can either be part number 99000-25010, or 99000-25030. 99000-25030 is usually the part number for Grease C. From what I know about Grease C, it's a tan lithium-based grease. Grease A is supposed to be reddish-brown, so it's obviously not the same stuff.

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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

I use the Bel Ray waterproof
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:24 PM   #3
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Yeah, half the people on the internet use that. I use it for my trailer hitch.

Still wondering about the Suzuki greases.

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Old 06-17-2010, 12:45 PM   #4
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

I don't know the difference between the Suzuki greases, but they are not special and can be cross referenced to open market greases. An acceptable replacement grease can be selected by knowing the service its being used in.
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

apple to oranges. If it gets her greased up enuf to piitb that's all that matters.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:13 PM   #6
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Jeff I understand your curiosity.
I hope you get your answer.
When I need grease, I dont by the manufacturers, just something equivilent
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

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I don't know the difference between the Suzuki greases, but they are not special and can be cross referenced to open market greases.
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When I need grease, I dont by the manufacturers, just something equivilent
The problem is, without knowing what type of grease that "Grease A" might be, it's somewhat difficult to find an alternate. Part of my problem is that Suzuki is not consistent in their recomendations for the usages, so I can't reliable go there, either.

There are 6 or 7 basic types of grease and a bunch of permutations of each type. Not all of them are good for everything; in fact, some of them can be harmful in certain applications. And, since I don't know what type of rubber is used for most of the seals and o-rings on one of these bikes, it's better to try and find a real answer than to just use any old grease lying around.

I've asked Suzuki for an answer. We'll see if I get one.

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what are you greasing?
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:23 PM   #9
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Lots and lots of things. At the moment I'm working on a set of Bandit carbs but next up is a complete overhaul of an '86 Limited.

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Old 06-18-2010, 09:59 PM   #10
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Javadog

Whatever info you find please let us know? I want to learn to do things the right way, and not use truck axle grease for everything. j/k

No ... but really i want to learn also.
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:36 AM   #11
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Truck axle grease?
I've been using 5th wheel grease
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:02 AM   #12
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

I use all kinds of grease (everything BUT stock Suzuki grease! LOL)

I got some cool BMX bicycle grease in a toothpaste-style tube called "Phil's waterproof grease" that kinda like a dark clean green- works good on certain things.

I use Molybdenum grease that was for Tamiya Radio controlled cars.

I got some KILLER clear silicone grease that was from MAYTAG appliances for use on fridge door gaskets thats works Awesome on the rubber grommets on bodywork, so the plastic "nubs" dont break off.

Of course I use reg car wheel bearing grease for wheel and steering-head bearings.

and even sometimes use this tub of White lithium grease with a little brush for things that I suspect wont hold up to reg grease.

I have never had anything tear up or seize or get messed up from not using the factory grease?

But i DO fully understand wanting to use the correct stuff as well-

GOOD LUCK MAN!
(if I had some Suzuki grease I'd tell ya what it looked/smelled like) LOL
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Javadog,

Did you ever figure this out? I'm kind of in the same situation. Back when I owned my 2000 Suz Katana, the factory manual frequently called for Suzuki Super Grease A, but listed two part numbers for it:

99000-25030 (for USA)
99000-25010 (Other countries)

Naturally, living in the USA, I ordered the 1st one - but when it came, it was labeled "Suzuki Super Grease C", and yea, it's tan and pretty thick. So, my guess is that all "Suzuki Super Grease" cans are similar lithium-based greases (and can be used interchangeably), but the difference is that some are spec'd differently due to countries' standards (like the EPA for the US).

Have you found any other info? My 08 GSXR manual calls for actual "A" (99000-25010), and I'm stuck with "C" - maybe since 2000 the countries' standards have equalized, and now Suzuki just uses "A"? Which is the same as "C"?
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Well, I'm glad you asked. I order the "other" grease, so I now have some of each. Just so we don't get confused, let's call the USA grease type "C" and the non-USA grease type "A."

The grease "A":

Comes in a much larger can...
Is a lighter tan in color, than the other one...
Doesn't seem to separate into grease/oil as much as the other...
Has less of a "grease" smell.


Other than that, I can't tell you much about it. Suzuki doesn't describe what type of grease it is, unlike on the grease "C" can, which is described as a lithium soap MP grease. On this "A" can, it's recommended uses are to lubricate the following:

Clutch release fork
Diff, side oil seal
Rear axle oil seal
Crank oil seal.

The "C" grease is recommended for :

Distributor gear
Universal joint.

Obviously, these greases were originally intended for the Suzuki car division... In the motorcycle manuals, they lube every last thing with the same grease, never mind what the application might be.

I have contacted Suzuki with my query, and they have failed to answer it. In fact, I never got a call back...

Maybe I'll ask a grease guy if he can at least identify the type of grease. I still have no idea about the US/Non-US difference.

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Old 10-26-2010, 02:34 PM   #15
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Java,

You should be able to get a MSDS sheet on the grease. MSDS = Material Safety Data Sheet. It should tell you the chemical makeup and other important items, such as disposal, safety and handling requirements. Suzuki should have these available.

Good luck.
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Old 10-26-2010, 04:04 PM   #16
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Suzuki should have these available.
Yeah, you'd think so, wouldn't you. It seems like it is an actual federal law....

My experience with the people you get when you call the customer service number is that you are left with the impression that yesterday they were working a phone line for the phone company, or the order window at Wendy's. NO actual motorcycle knowledge or experience. Still, I'll give it another shot...

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Old 10-27-2010, 09:56 AM   #17
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

The "A" grease sounds like what is commonly used for o-ring chain master links and supplied with a new chain. How big was tha can, and the cost?
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Old 10-27-2010, 10:35 AM   #18
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You get half of a kilo of grease and it retails for $16.71. Your price may vary, depending upon how friendly your dealer is...

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Old 11-01-2010, 09:23 PM   #19
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

Okay, what you have all been waiting for... pictures of the grease...

The "USA" grease is on the left. The rest of the world gets to use the grease on the right.

Have fun.
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Old 11-01-2010, 09:29 PM   #20
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Re: Suzuki Super Grease A, vs. Super Grease C

ok for the color
but you can feel also other difference ???
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