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04-06-2008, 11:28 PM
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#141
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Superbike Racer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Johnson Creek, WI
Motorcycle: 2008 Triumph Speed Triple, 2005 GSXR 750, 2004 GSXR Tyco R/C 1000
Posts: 7,437
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
Wait...all the new posts in this thread - from the last couple of days, are fakes, right?
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04-15-2008, 05:07 AM
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#142
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Squid
Join Date: May 2007
Motorcycle: k6 gsxr1000
Posts: 1
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
my first bike was a gsxr 1000 and im 5' 7"...i think it was a great choice. it's much smoother than any 600 or 750 i've ridden. mine's a k6 and it has a shorter seat height than a k4/k5 750 so you should be ok... worst comes to worst use the one cheek sneak method 
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04-28-2008, 10:23 PM
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#143
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Squid
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
If you lower the bike 4 inches and and keep it in six hundread mode you will be fine it handels great lowered. My wife is 5'4 and just bought a new 600 and rides it fine the bikes are within 20 lbs of each other. My fist bike K7 gsxr 1000.
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05-03-2008, 10:54 AM
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#144
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Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: T.O, Canasia
Motorcycle: K6 1000, 97 Fantic Section 250 Trials, 84 Yamaha Seca 400
Posts: 938
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
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Originally Posted by sportbike solutions
Wow... 3 whole days. That's alot. I'll be looking for her on pole next AMA season.
Some of you people just don't get it, do you? It isn't always a choice to 'use it'. It's a question of muscle memory, of countless experiences, of hours upon hours of seat time. And even then - as with most things - you never, ever stop learning. Learning to ride a motorcycle - and learning to ride it right - isn't something you can think your way through. Rationalization only gets you so far. There's no substitute for experience. And until you have a solid foundation of experience, you're going to hurt yourself on a big bike - either directly (ie getting fucked up), or indirectly (ie slowing your learning curve).
To ANYONE considering a 1000, of all bikes, as their first, keep in mind it's the posers and newbies alone who are the ones saying "you'll be fine on a 1000". They say it because they don't have enough experience to know any better. They don't know any better because they're either not interested in becoming better riders, haven't had the time to, or don't know how to. Because if they were interested in improving their abilities, and knew how to go about it, common sense would mandate that they start off on a smaller bike!
What these posers ARE interested in is being seen on the baddest bike off the showroom floor. And that they are... seen with squared off tires, seen with ridiculous riding posture, seen with lots of crash damage, and seen getting passed by the 250s & SVs on a regular basis. Sometimes seen dead or maimed. Rarely seen at the track (and when they are - it's in the slow group, holding everyone up).
I don't know about you... but 'fun' to me means striving to become a fast, skilled rider, on whatever bike I'm on. Fun does not mean being the guy that's so untalented that he's able to make Suzuki's flagship sportbike look slow. Fun is passing the poser on a 1K using a much smaller bike. Fun is not being the guy on the 1000 being passed.
Personally speaking, If I were looking to get involved in a new sport or activity (let's say skydiving, for instance, which I believe is statistically less dangerous that motorcycling)... I wouldn't ask the guy with 1 tandem jump under his belt for advice. I'd ask the instructor. Wouldn't you? Or would you trust your life and your enjoyment of the sport to the newbie who doesn't know any more than you do?
Well, I GUARANTEE that if you go to any racetrack, trackday, or riding school, and ask any seasoned racer, track vet, or instructor... they'll tell you that starting on a 1000 is not to your benefit, for a number of reasons. Shouldn't those be the people you'd want to listen to? The people that really care about your safety, that really want you to become better, faster... the people who really know what they're talking about.
Who are you going to listen to? The people with the experience to know what's really best for you, or the scumbag salesman at the dealership that couldn't give a shit whether you live or die, so long as he collects his commission? Are you going to listen to the majority of seasoned riders on this board that have the intelligence, experience, and common sense necessary to suggest the best course of action, or the minority of idiots that think being able to ride in a straight line makes them accomplished experts?
I'm usually pretty mellow - but it seriously pisses me off when screwballs suggest a 1000 as being a good beginners bike. They're either too fucking dumb to know any better - or so fucking careless and irresponsible that they're willing to jeapordize someone else's safety just to see their own dipshit comments in print. Either way, if they had any sense, they'd realize they don't know what the hell they're talking about, and keep their traps shut.
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I stopped reading the rest after reading the above.
That is the most intelligent and poignant statement on this topic that I've seen. Spot on.
If you don't get the point after reading this then i'm speechless.
I honestly cannot BELIEVE how many people think the opposite.....unbelievable
Now I must leave this thread as the stench of newb is becoming overpowering.
Last edited by loco : 05-03-2008 at 11:08 AM.
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05-03-2008, 11:46 AM
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#145
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Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: T.O, Canasia
Motorcycle: K6 1000, 97 Fantic Section 250 Trials, 84 Yamaha Seca 400
Posts: 938
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
Here's the perfect newb bike. Go get one.
And then go practice this stuff..
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...t-an_93571.htm
Soooooooo,
You can learn this stuff...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sdu7...eature=related
And then you start really having fun on a bike, there is nothing in the world better than being able to manipluate a motorcycle.
And later on if you're really good, gems like this can happen, and there is no drug better than the feeling of the vid below, either on track or street.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzyMhEgKXyM
OR, you can continue to do this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbGOoXhL40
Last edited by loco : 05-03-2008 at 11:51 AM.
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05-03-2008, 12:27 PM
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#146
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Squid
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
good advice from everyone,i've been riding for 26 years and have had various bikes over the years, i've also had all the gsxr 1000 models since its introduction in 2001. it is a great bike but definately NOT FOR BEGINNERS. i suggest you take the advice to put it into storage,buy something smaller,less intimidating do a few superbike schools/trackdays see whether or not you like it and if you're really into the biking thing! From there on only experience is what will prevent you from getting hurt should you want to ride the 1000! Or you can buy something slow like an R1 or Zx 10(ha ha ha )
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05-03-2008, 08:52 PM
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#147
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Novice
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Motorcycle: GSX-R600 '08
Posts: 42
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
I figure that this would be the best place to post the question. I bought my GSXR600 before I took my MSF beginner course. People (mostly friends and family) have told me that I made mistake on buying such a big and heavy bike as my first bike. Though I disagree with them, I have gone on a couple of test ride and unfortunately dropped it once resulting in minor scratches that are fixable. I love my bike, but it is so damn heavy compared to my boyfriends R6. Should I have gone and bought a 250, but then I would have out grown in before the end of summer. What do you guys think?
I can't wait to go riding!
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Rubber to the road girl...
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05-03-2008, 09:22 PM
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#148
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Rookie
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Houston TX
Motorcycle: 06 GSXR1000
Posts: 402
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
The 250 would have made you far more capable of the 600's abilities had you done so, possibly not dropping the 600. It will take you far longer to gain the skills on the 600 than if you had stepped up bike by bike, just my 2cents
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05-04-2008, 08:02 AM
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#149
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Squid
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
A true noob on a 1000 is not a good choice. I am a female only 5' tall. I do ride a 2001 GSX-R 1000 but............I am now 50 been riding on the road since I was 20 on a bike. I also rode dirt bikes from the time I was 4, not that dirt and street are the same, they are not.
As prev. posted getting yourself killed is not going to honor your friend.
If you have never ridden a bike, best to start small and more forgiving.
Also wear your gear and by that I mean, helmet, jacket,pants,boots and gloves. Remember roderash is NOT sexy and it hurts like hell. No even the best gear will not protect you from stupid either self induced or provided compliments of someone else but it will help.
Also if you have someone with a smaller bike that you know and they don't mind you trying it go to an empty parking lot and practice.Take a MSF course it will really help understand a few things.
Anita
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05-04-2008, 02:09 PM
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#150
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Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: T.O, Canasia
Motorcycle: K6 1000, 97 Fantic Section 250 Trials, 84 Yamaha Seca 400
Posts: 938
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
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Originally Posted by Oddball.lyn
I figure that this would be the best place to post the question. I bought my GSXR600 before I took my MSF beginner course. People (mostly friends and family) have told me that I made mistake on buying such a big and heavy bike as my first bike. Though I disagree with them, I have gone on a couple of test ride and unfortunately dropped it once resulting in minor scratches that are fixable. I love my bike, but it is so damn heavy compared to my boyfriends R6. Should I have gone and bought a 250, but then I would have out grown in before the end of summer. What do you guys think?
I can't wait to go riding!
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That's the thing, you never really outgrow a 250 or any smaller displacement bike. People always use this "term" but the reality is that thay have mastered the straight line acceleration of the 250 and want more.
I still have & always will keep my Trials 250, not because I've outgrown it (& never will) but it remains my tool to learn on. It's neverending, that's the thing. The term "I've mastered this trials thing" will never come out of my mouth, it's impossible. That little 250 still kicks my ass and I continue to learn and adapt.
NOTHING IS CARRIED OVER FROM THE 1k TO THE 250, BUT EVERYTHING IS FILTERED DOWN FROM THE 250 TO THE 1K.
Anyone who says "they have outgrown such & such" is chock full o shit, because in all probability they haven't.
I'm also a very good golfer and when I teach new people, they start on a set of small forged blades, to learn how to work the ball and nut it on a dime every time.
Then you can hit whatever you want.
Whenever I'm on the range and see someone talking shit, I hand em my old Cleveland TA1 2 iron, and the shit talk usually ends after they shank everything in sight.
The only reason I bought the 1K from a 600 was the torque, I was wringing it's neck, getting to much attention and a headache, so I switched.
But to say that I grew bored or mastered the 600 is utter crap, because I did'nt.
CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW AND SEE IF YOU THINK HE'S BORED WITH A SMALL BIKE. 
Last edited by loco : 05-04-2008 at 02:27 PM.
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05-04-2008, 06:01 PM
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#151
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Novice
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange County, CA
Motorcycle: GSX-R600 '08
Posts: 42
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
Quote:
Originally Posted by loco
That's the thing, you never really outgrow a 250 or any smaller displacement bike. People always use this "term" but the reality is that thay have mastered the straight line acceleration of the 250 and want more.
I still have & always will keep my Trials 250, not because I've outgrown it (& never will) but it remains my tool to learn on. It's neverending, that's the thing. The term "I've mastered this trials thing" will never come out of my mouth, it's impossible. That little 250 still kicks my ass and I continue to learn and adapt.
NOTHING IS CARRIED OVER FROM THE 1k TO THE 250, BUT EVERYTHING IS FILTERED DOWN FROM THE 250 TO THE 1K.
Anyone who says "they have outgrown such & such" is chock full o shit, because in all probability they haven't.
I'm also a very good golfer and when I teach new people, they start on a set of small forged blades, to learn how to work the ball and nut it on a dime every time.
Then you can hit whatever you want.
Whenever I'm on the range and see someone talking shit, I hand em my old Cleveland TA1 2 iron, and the shit talk usually ends after they shank everything in sight.
The only reason I bought the 1K from a 600 was the torque, I was wringing it's neck, getting to much attention and a headache, so I switched.
But to say that I grew bored or mastered the 600 is utter crap, because I did'nt.
CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW AND SEE IF YOU THINK HE'S BORED WITH A SMALL BIKE. 
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You know you're proably right, I won't out grow a 250. Let me rephrase then. By the end of summer I would want more out of my bike and hop up to the next power level. So I should have got a 250 to start, and then moved on to a 600. But I already have my 600 so there's no going back. Best I could do is borrow my friend's 250 and practice a bit. Thanks!
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05-04-2008, 06:07 PM
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#152
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Rookie
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: T.O, Canasia
Motorcycle: K6 1000, 97 Fantic Section 250 Trials, 84 Yamaha Seca 400
Posts: 938
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oddball.lyn
You know you're proably right, I won't out grow a 250. Let me rephrase then. By the end of summer I would want more out of my bike and hop up to the next power level. So I should have got a 250 to start, and then moved on to a 600. But I already have my 600 so there's no going back. Best I could do is borrow my friend's 250 and practice a bit. Thanks!
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Great idea, whenever you can, grab that 250 and practice away. Try things out, experiment...
I still practice 1/2 day every month (with the 1K) on braking, accelerating and maneuvering.
I'm still finding ways to haul this beast down quicker, to accelerate quicker and to maneuver the bike quicker & more efficiently.
Because when the shit hits the fan I'm ready to roll, I know what the limits are of both myself & the machine and that has kept my ass alive on numerous occasions.
BTW: The bike is still far more capable than I am 
Last edited by loco : 05-04-2008 at 06:44 PM.
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10-02-2008, 02:41 PM
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#153
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Squid
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
If the bike is paid off, and I were you. I would honor my friend by trading the bike in for a 600 or something in your frame size,(since you've said you've been riding for a while), and get on it in your friends name and go for a long ride. Your friend will be smiling down on you as you ride a bike that fits you and has you smiling the whole way, knowing that your riding now.....more often...becasue of him.
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10-02-2008, 03:13 PM
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#154
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Novice
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Kent , England
Motorcycle: GSXR750k8,GSXR600K4(TRACK)
Posts: 44
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
lady that will scare the life out of you, sell it buy a 600 or a sv 650
you will also learn more the 1000 will intimidate you
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10-02-2008, 03:37 PM
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#155
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Rookie
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lancaster, CA
Motorcycle: 02 750, 05 CRF 450R
Posts: 1,423
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
Ummmm.... the last time that girl was on this sit e was in 2006.
Time to let this one go.
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01-06-2009, 05:42 PM
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#156
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Squid
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5280
You having a Gixxer 1000 for a first bike is the equivalent of your first mountain climb being Mount Everest.
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I bought a 1000 for my 1st bike and I gotta tell you.... U live and Learn... I still have it 4 years later...... But it was an experience being that i NEVER rode a street bike b4... lets just say LOTS of trial and error. 
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01-06-2009, 05:58 PM
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#157
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Looking for fat chicks for long walks, romance and ballast
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: CALIFORNIA
Motorcycle: 2007 GSX-R600
Posts: 4,824
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
holy dead thread batman
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01-06-2009, 06:05 PM
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#158
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Wanted to blame "friend" for his own errors to scam him out of money but changed his mind when GdC got the word to said friend.
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: rt.125 PA
Motorcycle: k6 600
Posts: 1,164
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
Hahah 06??
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01-06-2009, 08:40 PM
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#159
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Squid
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mount, Va
Motorcycle: 2007- Gixxer750
Posts: 5
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
I am a girl and have been riding for a little over 1 year. I own a gixxer 750, but have ridden my husbands 1000. I think it is a fine bike for girls as long as you respect it and stay out of the throttle.
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01-06-2009, 08:49 PM
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#160
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Rookie
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: maple valley, wa
Motorcycle: 07 GSXR750
Posts: 618
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Re: GSXR 1000 as a first bike?
put the bike away. i only read that first post and that's all i have to say. i used to sell bikes and wouldn't even sell a 750 to someone who has this little experience.
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