Noob question : Suzuki GSX-R Motorcycle Forums: Gixxer.com

**BlkdOutGsxR** · 08-07-2006, 02:08 AM

Alrite, ive been riding for a couple years now but i have just started to actually ride how bikes are "meant to be rode". So heres my question. I know that by turning the bars left the bike leans right due to pysics, but should this only be used in getting ready for a turn, or 1/2 way through a turn is it ok to push out on the lift clipon to get the bike lower? Thanks..

-Tom

**Grandevil** · 08-07-2006, 02:15 AM

"Half way through the turn" is technically the apex, or the point at which you would start coming out of the turn and standing the bike up. Also technically, your bike will turn in as soon as you countersteer (push left to go left, push right to go right). Maybe you're asking about initial turn in?

I'm sure one of the other members will have a better answer.

But, technically if you had more corner left...and you had traction left I don't see why you couldn't lean the bike in lower. If you try to push the left clip on in a right turn it will make the bike stand up, not lean further to the right.

Basically if you're going faster than 10 mph you'll be using countersteering to turn.

**vaa** · 08-07-2006, 07:55 AM

I think he might be talking about mid-corner corrections.
If that's the case then yes, you can still use counter steering to go deeper but be very carefull as to how much you push or pull on the clip-ons. Your front tire has a very small part of it touching the ground when the bke is leaned over. You want to be smooth with your actions.
Have you tried using your lower body to help you steer? If you are trying to to turn right try pressing down on the right footpeg. While doing that, press with your left knee on the tank. Like you are trying to push the bike that way. Do those two things plus counter steer and you will be amazed at how easy the bike carves corvers.

Not sure if what I typed is clear. Maybe someoune else can explain it better.

**BlkdOutGsxR** · 08-07-2006, 01:53 PM

Yea, that is what i meant.... just had trouble saying it i guess. thanks for the replys and ill try improving on the lower body. thanks again..

-Tom

**OutOfMyDepth** · 08-10-2006, 01:20 AM

Depending how much load you have on the front wheel you can make mid corner corrections, but ideally you shouldnt be putting any force into the bars once youve done your initial turn in until you are exiting the corner.

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Originally Posted by vaa

Have you tried using your lower body to help you steer? If you are trying to to turn right try pressing down on the right footpeg. While doing that, press with your left knee on the tank. Like you are trying to push the bike that way. Do those two things plus counter steer and you will be amazed at how easy the bike carves corvers.

Actually pushing down on the pegs doesnt do any turning, it just stabilises the bike. Try pushing on the outside peg and it has a similar effect

... and pressing into the tank and down on the pegs gives you a more stable position/grip on the bike which makes it easier to loosen up your arms and put less unneccesary input into the handlebars.

**GSXR1000K3** · 09-14-2006, 06:15 AM

Weighing the pegs is a myth. It doesn't steer the bike. Standing on the pegs lets the bike move more freely under you. That helps a lot when you're riding on a rough and bumpy road or on gravel.

**bumblebeegsxr** · 09-15-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GSXR1000K3

Weighing the pegs is a myth. It doesn't steer the bike. Standing on the pegs lets the bike move more freely under you. That helps a lot when you're riding on a rough and bumpy road or on gravel.

Thats funny.....it seems to work great for me!

**Ride.** · 09-16-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bumblebeegsxr

Thats funny.....it seems to work great for me!

Yeah. Keith Code doesn't seem to think its a myth, either.